The Update set; Odds, Pictures and Case/Box Breakdowns

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[beckham1]

Congrats to everyone so far on their pulls

I have question, besides the biggish autos does every other insert card seem to be slow moving on ebay.

As everyone over spent or are they waiting for what their own cases/boxes have before picking up any other cards.

I noticed the same thing and have also been wondering why this is?  Lets call it the Precious Syndrome

I think this is what happened with LOTR FOTR - the first release was so great with all the super auto's and the print run was so low that it became a gold mine for collectors, then the word got out and with each additional LOTR releases started trending down.   The ship sank with LOTR ROTK Update - you can pick up a box for about $25 now well below what a dealer could by them for.

So if you look at it one way it is great for the collector who can pick up some really cheap inserts from this set

Or if you are someone who wanted to make money on this set like POA original I think it will be very tough unless you pull one of the big three auto's or a triple.  It seems even props lower than 500 can be had at $50-$100.

On the flip side I think many are still waiting for there cases and will buy what they need after they open them.  A master set being almost impossible is going to force people to pick and choose and I think that will affect demand for most cards.

I don't know I really would like to hear what others think.  But they are awesome cards for the collector.

[beckham1]

Finally case breakdowns as follows (not listing the foils, boxtoppers, or case toppers - just the important stuff.)

Case 1

Costumes
1-Harry Quiddich Robe 1146/2173
1- Harry Black Robe 1456/2173
1 - Draco Robe 290/628
1 - Hermione Scarf 417/730
2 - Lupin Coat 2086 & 531/2900
1- Lupin shirt (variant) 675/834

Props
1 - Divination Class VARIANT (6 Colors Nice) 591/930
1 - Divination Class  363/845
1 - Sleeping Bag 38/1980

Auto's
1 - Earnie Prang Redemption
1 - Percy Weasley

Film Cards
3 Film Cell Cards

[beckham1]

Case 2

Costumes
1-Harry Quiddich Robe 1794/2173
1- Harry Black Robe 1615/2173
1 - Neville Robe 628/1170
1 - Hermione Scarf 389/730
1 - Lupin Coat 928/2900
1- Cedric Diggory Quiddich Robe 766/2173
1- Cornelius Fudge Jacket (pinstripes) 737/830

Props
1 - Fizzing Wizzbees 409/430 All bright yellow
2 - Sleeping Bag 880 & 881 :'(/1980 Obvious bad collation to get 2 consecutive #'d bags

Auto's
1 - Earnie Prang Redemption
1 - Argus Filch
1- Vincent Crabbe

Film Cards
4 Film Cell Cards

[beckham1]

Case 3

Costumes
1-Harry Quiddich Robe 1075/2173
1- Harry Black Robe 1452/2173
1-Harry Quiddich Robe 170/1143
1 - Hermione Pink TSHIRT 565/628
1 - Lupin Coat 1830/2900
1- Cedric Diggory Quiddich Robe 329/2173
1- Draco Black RObe  200/628

Props
1 - Divination Class VARIANT 470/930
1 - Divination Class VARIANT 463/930
1 - Unfogging the Future  323/930

Auto's
1 - Earnie Prang Redemption (enough with earnie already)
1 - Percy Weasley (again)
1- Dudley Dursey

Film Cards
4 Film Cell Cards

[beckham1]

I feel pretty undecided so far on my overall thoughts on the cases I have opened so far.  There has been a few cool variants and a few nice costume cards.  However I am a little disappointed with 3 cases that I didn't get any of the big cards I want (no I am not talking about the big auto's although that would be nice I am not expecting to pull one).  I think they should have produced a few more of some of the ones #'d below 1000 and less of the ones over 2000.  I am a little frustrated with all the Harry Robes and Quiddich Robes and Lupin Jackets (you can pretty much count on about 3 or more of these per case)

Hoping for
- Wanted Poster
- Maraduers Map
- Grimm Fur
-Buckbeak Feather
-Daily Prophet
-Slytherin Material
-Gryffindor Material

NONE OF THOSE SO FAR out of 30 boxes :'(  
That is pretty harsh

[blackcat20]

Doesn't give much hope to those of us only opening a few boxes... I'm only getting 5,  

[beckham1]

I wouldn't be too discouraged, I tend to have worse than average luck.  You will prob pull a triple auto, map card and grimm fur.

Of course then you will trade them all to me for a harry quiddich robe and lupin jacket....and when I snap my fingers you will wake up...and cluck like a chicken.

Did my hypnosis work?

[mcgonagall]

hey black that is 3 more boxes than me.
But then i will pull a trio and the dual and sleeping bag  
cheeky arn't i  

and hypnios doesn't work on me beckham

[Tea_and_Fruit]

Got my first 3 boxes (UK)

Box # 1

Boxtopper BT2
Foils: R5, 6, 7, 8, 9
Costume: Harry Potter Quidditch Robe 0714/2173

3 packs contain 10 instead of 8 Basic Cards

[Roz]

3 packs contain 10 instead of 8 Basic Cards

I had that problem too - not that the base cards are not welcome of course but I thought it might have a Grimm fur or something in the pack

[Tea_and_Fruit]

Box # 2

Boxtopper BT2

Foils: R1, 2, 4, 6, 8

Film Cell: Harry + Snape  (REAL Cool One, Harry with wand in front of the forest ready to fight)

Autograph Card: Dawn French – Fat Lady (Yipiieeeee)

Prop Card: Sleeping Bag 1079/1980

[Roz]

Wow - great box

[Tea_and_Fruit]

Box #3

Boxtopper BT1

Foils: R3, 4, 5, 7, 9

Prop Card: Unfogging the Future 791/930


again 4 packs with 10 cards

A beautiful set. Now I wait for my cases…..
 

[frd]

Here is my second case:

Case Topper: Harry riding Buckbeak

Madam Rosmerta Costume: 037 of 250
Aunt Marge Costume: 212 of 430
Neville Longbottom Costume: 0856 of 1170
Cedric Diggory Costume: 0071 of 2173
Harry Potter Quidditch Costume: 1182 of 2173
Remus Lupin Costume: 1320 of 2900
Remus Lupin Costume: 2384 of 2900
Divination Class Prop: 733 of 930
Divination Class Prop: 734 of 930
Unfogging the Future Prop: 749 of 930

Film Cards:
    178 of 900 Harry casting a spell

Autograph Cards:
   NONE  :'(

The bad thing about this case...I gave morenomark $600 to get me another case at the local show last night. He bought 1 Box & got 1 Autograph card, 1 Film card & 1 Costume card          

[Roz]

Bad luck with the case Fernando... however, might I cast your mind back to that box you shared between you and each took a side from?

 

[frd]

I wish morenomark had gotten the side with awesome cards back then, so that karma would be with me now. We have each opened 2 cases, he has gotten 6 Autographs (including Hermione), loads of Film cards + many props & cotumes. Hopefully, the final case I am waiting for will have some stuff to make up for this one!

[cjdmadcow]

As is typical with most of us I guess, I couldn't wait until tonight to start opening some packs, so during my lunch break I decided to open 1 box. Out of that, I've opened just 12 packs from one side. And got :

Foils R1, R4 & R6
35mm Film Card (Knight Bus - with cells showing Sirius in jail)
Prop Card - Remus Lupins Jacket (1104/2900)
Warwick Davies / Choir Conductor Auto Card

From 12 packs  

I hope this trend continues, though I doubt it.

CJD

[Roz]

Great start CJD  

May your good fortune continue!!

I have the one with Harry in the Courtyard 35mm cel card that has a cel with Sirius in Jail - just like the lenticular card  

[cjdmadcow]

Great start CJD  

May your good fortune continue!!

I have the one with Harry in the Courtyard 35mm cel card that has a cel with Sirius in Jail - just like the lenticular card  

It won't continue, I know it. Yes, thats the card, the same as the case topper.

I suppose I should admit at this point that I haven't even seen the film yet, so some of the terminology & names mean nothing to me. I'll wait for the DVD.

CJD

[morenomark]

Yeah, rough stuff, that Karma.

Out of one box, I got:

Film Cell - Harry Conjures His Patronus - #663 of 900
Harry Quidditch Robe (Close) - #133 of 2173
4 "R" cards, enabling me to make another complete set
and, with apologies to Fernando, as well as to Jennifer Saunders
and to all of you Brits...

A DAWN FRENCH AUTOGRAPH CARD!!!

Best $60 I ever spent.  

I also got the three tins.  From said tins, I got two "M" cards and George Wealey Quidditch Robe #1559 of 2803, which was pretty lucky, considering the dealer had exactly one set of tins and the odds of pulling a costume card at four packs per tin are one in six.

To add insult to injury, while I was waiting for the update set, I started collecting Angel Season 5.  Tonight I bought my fifth box.  Got Autograph Card #5.  Got Pieceworks Card #4 (one duplicate out of five).  Got the three cards I needed to complete the two chase sets.  Got the Box Topper I needed to complete that set.

I'm expecting the infestation of locusts any minute now.  

Seriously, my luck is NEVER this good.

Anyway,  I said it for Roz and I'll say it for Fernando:

No autographs is totally unacceptable.  

At the very least, Artbox should give you a replacement autograph when something like this happens.  

We also noticed several packs where there were only five cards.  I'm really curious as to how the cards are packed.  I have a theory that it's a machine that uses a computer program that tells it when to drop inserts in.  The boxes that have nothing or less/more than average are a result of the machine following the programmed ratios; every so often there's a null space.  The skips are, in effect, "0's".  I'm probably way off, but it's something cases with no auto's make me think about.