Cryptic info from cards inc

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[Roz]

They've told me to email them... but maybe it will be on the site too!

[Tea_and_Fruit]

if there will be 1250 Cases and approximate 2 Autos pro Case we get 2500 Autos. That can not be right. We have now more autograph cards then last time. (4-6) And the POA Set have more than 3000 Auto Cards.

And now we have a few "Common" signers.

Example: Ernie

 I would say 350-500 (like the Weasleys last time)

If we have 10 Common signers between 200 and 500 Cards we have a lot more cards then the 2500 (if we say 2 Autos per Case)  So there must be MORE Cards.

I think 3 Autos per Case.

Sorry for my bad english

[samwise16]

the last set neville (matthew) signed 600 and i'd say james and oliver must have signed the same. they were common cards. more would have been signed this time so i would guess the common signers would have signed about 700/800

[Tea_and_Fruit]

It was as example meant that the calculation with the number of autographs per Case is not correct. There is many more autographs there than 2 per Case.

ROZ should  get out her calculator and make a new statistic  

Ok you have time till tomorow evening after the new Artbox Infos  

[samwise16]

yes i agree, i think just like the last set some people will get alot more than what they should, Look on the NSU forum (Not that i ever recommend that place!) under box breakdowns and check out what people pulled out of cases, most of them got more than what the ratio said they would get.

[beckham1]

That does bring up an interesting point about the auto numbers.  An average of 200 each auto would seem to be the amount of auto's if they fall 2 per case.  Of course we all expect that the Harry will be rare, the triple and double will probably be pretty rare also and maybe one or two others.  

But you would still think that most of the signers would sign at least the same amount as the last wave did for the first release (since the cases have more than doubled).  Any thought on this?

[samwise16]

I reckon most people will find 3 autos per case, i hope even more

[Tea_and_Fruit]

i agree 3 or more per case if the print run is 1250 cases or less

[kbmum]

If Artbox hasn't yet firmed up the print run, it would certainly be better to tell people 2 autos per case, then bump it up to 3, rather than the reverse.

[Tea_and_Fruit]

We should tell everybody 5 or 8 Autos per Case.......  

[garage]

I did some analysis on the orignal POA set around the box breakdowns posted - of the 23 cases I had information on, the auto ratio looked to be very close to the 1:48 packs quoted (or total of 2500). This meant that only 300 - 400 of the more common signatures were released and 100 - 150 of the 4 rarer ones were available.

It looks likes they are using roughly the same number of autos this time around it is just going to be dispersed based on the total number of cases. Not sure if this will make them more or less expensive than the original set?  

[rns91294]

I also feel that there may be more per case, but like kbmum said, it would be better for them to tell us a lower number first, just in case.  I feel the same may be true with the costumes as well.  I know the new information says 1 prop OR costume per box, but with all the customer cards they are making (depending on how they number them as well), there may be a chance for more, but it is better for them not to say.

[beckham1]

Roz,
My local guy printed out an email he got from his distributer confirming most of the info you posted on page 1.   A few other things it says (he actually printed it out for me and he said this guy is the #1 distributer for Artbox in the US).  Anyway  it said:

14 auto cards plus possibly 3 additional autos which are still unconfirmed by Artbox (this email is a week old so that may have been firmed up)  However it does state that the Harry Ron & Hermione autos are confirmed (again remember this info was over a week ago) and that they will also be signing a triple auto card.  MOST IMPORTANTLY "All four of these cards will be limited and should be much sought after"

It also reconfirmes 12 prop cards (2 being the case insentives) and 19 costume cards with varying print runs.

"Artbox still has some other unconfirmed cards including a double costume card and another double auto card.  They are unconfirmed because these cards are not in their possession, and they would rather not deal with redemption cards."

It also states
"Warning: The print run of this product will be larger than the 500 cases made of the original wave (artbox won't say how much larger) so while there will be more product available this time, there are also MANY MORE SHORT PRINTED AUTO's COSTUMES AND PROP cards to find."

[Elle_driver]

I think that 19 costume cards seems a bit much, but hey, if they got the costumes and have to use 'em, then i'm all for it, (hopefully nothing /30) though

[beckham1]

I think we will see 5 or so that have short prints less than 500

[Elle_driver]

i guess some of them would be shortprinted wouldn't they,  maybe they have obtained the trio's hogwarts ties? then they'd be around /200 - /300, but if artbox in the first place only had the 6 outfits that they used in the first set, then wouldn't they have a school shirt, school pants, school tie? this would explain the pre-release costume photos of harry laying on the street and hermione doing work, because it just seems to make sense that WB sent complete outfits for use, not just a shirt, a cloak and another partial outfit, *my theory* (cloak, pants,shirt,tie,x3)(Sweater,pink t-shirt, Jeans,striped belt)(quidditch robes,x2)(grey t-shirt, pants, plaid shirt,Blue Jacket) (buckbeak, grimm) this easily makes up 19ish new costume cards plus the 6 ones already

[Roz]

"Warning: The print run of this product will be larger than the 500 cases made of the original wave (artbox won't say how much larger) so while there will be more product available this time, there are also MANY MORE SHORT PRINTED AUTO's COSTUMES AND PROP cards to find."

This really is interesting and I haven'e even had a whiff of this... oh come on Artbox stop beating about the bush and explain what you are really putting in this set!!!

[samwise16]

It is becoming annoying  

[beckham1]

I wonder how short printed the triple auto will be?

Any guesses...I am guessing somewhere between 50-100.   Maybe even less (like 10).  That would be an awesome pull.  Just think if it was just 50 copies - and there are 1250 cases.  1 in 25 cases   yowzers.

That is a tough card or 1:250 boxes if you getting boxes.  I think my math was right on that.

[beckham1]

So no more actually info yet on the autos and costumes?

Artbox has to have finalized everything by this point.  Only a week left and most likely a few days til they ship to distributors.