Harry Potter Memorable Moments II

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[kbmum]

Yes, Artbox has always inserted 10 costumes per case.  Those odds mean that four boxes in every case will have only one insert.    I agree with John that it could also increase the possibility of dud boxes.

[sfmuggle]

Thanks for posting the pics (almost makes me want to place an order).  However, given the info posted and my own experiences with MM, I'm still going to pass on buying case(s) and look for cards on eBay.  The possibility of one insert or dud boxes has me a little worried.  Though fewer cases sold may mean fewer cards listed on eBay.  dilemma for me but I guess my mind is made up (unless other info is posted to contrary about MM2).

[Fizzingwizbee63]

Does Artbox have any replacement policy for dud boxes, if a sealed case is purchased??

[Bogleg]

Does Artbox have any replacement policy for dud boxes, if a sealed case is purchased??

Nope. Nada. No way. Not in a Gazillion years. This is Artbox, not Rittenhouse 

[kbmum]

Inkworks announced today that it is out of business.  Artbox should take note. 

I think it's a huge mistake to have only 16 inserts per case (not including the case topper and lower-level chase).  The trend in the industry is to offer a minimum of two premium inserts per box.  If they don't have enough total inserts to do that, then they should reduce the number of cases from 600 to 400 (MM1 had 375 cases).  They might be able to eventually claim the set sold out, but whether the distributors (who are forced to buy a certain amount of product) can sell 6,000 boxes seems iffy at best.

[Fizzingwizbee63]

Inkworks out of business?
I wonder what that means for the sequel set toTwilight , New Moon.

[ferdinand_the_yak]

I was very very tempted to get a few boxes of this after the insert info you posted yesterday Cindy. Then after seeing the insert RATIO, I've changed my mind. What a joke! Artbox being greedy as usual. I'm surprised that they haven't gone the way of Inkworks, who I thought were a very good company.

[kbmum]

Inkworks out of business?
I wonder what that means for the sequel set toTwilight , New Moon.

It probably means another company will try to get the license and release sets for all of the remaining Twilight movies.

I said a while back that I wouldn't buy MM2, but nearly caved and ordered a couple of boxes after seeing the partial checklist yesterday.  Now, I just can't spend more than $50 for a box only to pull one common costume.

[ferdinand_the_yak]

I agree Cindy - those odds are pitiful. Artbox marketed MM1 as a "premium" product, but this one just looks like a quick buck grabbing filler set. Some of the cards such as the dual autographs sound good, but I don't think I'll risk spending $80 AU for a $5 costume card thanks.

[kbmum]

As I recall, MM1 had a "premium" price, too.  I think I paid $150 for two boxes instead of approximately $110 for two boxes of a regular release.  At least the price of MM2 is in line with a regular release, although there is less value for the money.

[Fizzingwizbee63]

Does anyone know if the case count for this set is confirmed yet?

[ferdinand_the_yak]

As I recall, MM1 had a "premium" price, too.  I think I paid $150 for two boxes instead of approximately $110 for two boxes of a regular release.  At least the price of MM2 is in line with a regular release.

My point exactly - this is a blatant cash grabbing exercise on Artbox's part. I can't see anything special about it at all. Poor insert ratios, almost no information released prior to the release of the set - does Artbox WANT this set to bomb?

[kbmum]

Let's not forget that people are spending less money on discretionary items due to the economy.  I can't buy both this set and Tom's upcoming Dexter set, so it looks like my money will be spent on Dexter.

From what I've heard, MM2 will have 600 cases.

[ferdinand_the_yak]

And people will be budgeting for HBP as well. I don't know about everyone else, but I have never been a fan of the "filler" sets. If I had to prioritise, I always go for the "official" sets. That's going to hit Artbox hard as well, I think.

[stoney]

With a good chance of dud boxes it seems, i may give this set a miss after all.
I have had enough painful experiences in the past with the PoA update case i bought and then all the individual boxes.
I know that the insert odds are not as bad as the PoA update set but it has taken me a while to save for a sealed case and i don't want my hard earned money to be wasted once again with more dud boxes in a case.
If i buy a case of MM2 then i won't be able to buy a case of HBP as i can only really afford to get one and knowing my luck i will end up getting dud boxes and HBP will have the normal case insert ratio when the set comes along.
It's a shame because the double costume and double prop cards sound fantastic.
This is where Artbox are not stupid. If the insert ratio for a set is not great they put in some really unique cards to tempt people in to buying despite the chance of dud boxes.
That's why idiots like me are still buying PoA update boxes in the slim hope of finding an elusive, rare and unique card despite all the dud boxes out there!

[kbmum]

We don't know for sure that there will be dud boxes.  They have cropped up in every set, but are usually fairly rare (other than POA and POAU).  We're only guessing that if four boxes in a case have one insert, then it wouldn't take much for the insert to accidentally not be included in a box.

IMHO, a set with these odds is more risky for the box buyer than the case buyer.  At least with a case, there should be 16 inserts at a cost of around $500+ for the case.  Excluding the case topper, chase cards and base cards, that comes to $31.25 per insert.  A box buyer could spend $210+ for four boxes and end up with only four inserts, at a cost of $52.50 per insert.  Of course, if you take into account the cards I excluded, some of which you might be able to sell, the "price per insert" comes down.  I'm not trying to say that that is what an insert should be worth.  I'm just trying to provide a means of comparison.

I personally don't feel comfortable spending $50+ for a box and pulling a common costume numbered to 700.  If there were a guarantee of two inserts per box (other companies guarantee the number of inserts and some releases have had as many as four premium inserts per box), I might be more willing to take a chance.

[sfmuggle]

I was surprised to hear last night about Inkworks.  Granted that I've not been a fan of all their products but I was kind of caught off guard (had to read twice to make sure it was "Inkworks").  I wonder how Rittenhouse is doing?

I'm personally going to wait and save my $ for HBP.  I do like the dual auto for MM2 and may just buy the ones I want.

Inkworks out of business?
I wonder what that means for the sequel set toTwilight , New Moon.

It probably means another company will try to get the license and release sets for all of the remaining Twilight movies.

I said a while back that I wouldn't buy MM2, but nearly caved and ordered a couple of boxes after seeing the partial checklist yesterday.  Now, I just can't spend more than $50 for a box only to pull one common costume.

[Fizzingwizbee63]

With a good chance of dud boxes it seems, i may give this set a miss after all.
I have had enough painful experiences in the past with the PoA update case i bought and then all the individual boxes.
I know that the insert odds are not as bad as the PoA update set but it has taken me a while to save for a sealed case and i don't want my hard earned money to be wasted once again with more dud boxes in a case.
If i buy a case of MM2 then i won't be able to buy a case of HBP as i can only really afford to get one and knowing my luck i will end up getting dud boxes and HBP will have the normal case insert ratio when the set comes along.
It's a shame because the double costume and double prop cards sound fantastic.
This is where Artbox are not stupid. If the insert ratio for a set is not great they put in some really unique cards to tempt people in to buying despite the chance of dud boxes.
That's why idiots like me are still buying PoA update boxes in the slim hope of finding an elusive, rare and unique card despite all the dud boxes out there!

I hate that Artbox chose now to release this set. Just having recovered from my 3D2 hangover of bad pulls, I was really looking forward to the HBP set.
As far as POAU is concerned, every time I opened a dud box from that set, I swore I would never buy HP boxes again    
  rofl:
I think I am Queen idiot of that set!!! Several cases I purchases, and each case had dud boxes, and the only major card I pulled was a Rupert Grint Auto,
which I sold so that I could purchase more HP boxes!!

[sfmuggle]

I hope the autos are not redemption cards.  They appear to look very nice but I've had it with redemptions (Gleeson & Kathryn Hunter of recent memory and my own mishap with the lost Radcliffe).

[stoney]

HEY FIZZINGWIZBEE63!..YOU HAVE THE POA UPDATE BUG TOO!
I didn't think that i would find anyone else who was a worse idiot than me for the PoA update set!!LOL!
I thought i was bad!!.
You were at least lucky enough to find a Rupert Grint Auto card. From one sealed case and at least 8 or 9 seperate sealed boxes, the best card i have ever pulled (including all props, autos costumes and creature cards) was a Fizzing Whizzbees prop card!

I hope the autos are not redemption cards.  They appear to look very nice but I've had it with redemptions (Gleeson & Kathryn Hunter of recent memory and my own mishap with the lost Radcliffe).

I don't like redemption cards...never have! . I just want a simple old fashioned auto card.
Whenever i have bought boxes from a set that contains autograph redemption cards and i have been lucky enough to find an auto card, it has always been a redemption!.

I might have to wait until after the HBP set is released to decide which case to buy. As i have said in a previous post, i can only buy one but i'm not sure if i should get MM2 or HBP. If i wait, i can see which is the best set and then look on ebay when the time comes to buy. I just don't want to rush into buying a case of MM2 and then regret it when HBP is released and wish i had waited.