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« on: July 02, 2007, 02:51:58 AM »

Hello, my name is Dio and I'm new to these forums ^_^

Are packs sold in stores like Target and Wal-Mart? What's the difference between World of Harry Potter 3D and the Artbox sets named after each movie? And why is there Goblet of Fire and Goblet of Fire Update, and Prisoner of Azkaban and Prizoner of Azkaban Update?

About the props/costume/autograph cards: Are there just about three or four of these total in each box? Are they thicker than the base set cards?

Sorry for asking all of these questions, I'm just very curious about these cards.
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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2007, 03:19:10 AM »

I'm not sure what they sell at Target or Walmart, so I can't help you there.  Let's start with the basics.  Artbox makes two kind of boxes for each set of cards.  They are Hobby Boxes and Retail Boxes.  Hobby boxes contain the extra autograph, costume, film, and prop cards.  Retail boxes do not.  Some costume and prop cards are thicker than others.  It depends on what they contain.  Costume cards that contains sweater swatches will be thicker than cards that contain a piece of pants material.  Prop cards are the same way.  In the World of Harry Potter the dragon sack cards that contain a piece of the cord are thicker than the same card that contain a piece of the sack material.  Autograph cards are the same size as a standard card.  The cards that contain film cell are about the size of two regular cards.

Now to the different series of cards.  The movie, Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, will have two sets of cards released.  The first set called OOP around here will be released sometime this month.  The Update set which will be call OOPU will not be released until sometime in October Praying.  Be prepared for there to be numerous delay for the second set.  Both sets of cards will have Hobby Box versions and Retail Box versions.  The most recent release, World of Harry Potter 3D cards is a series of cards from all of the first four movies.  What makes these cards special is they have a 3D finish to them.  The hobby boxes have costume, prop, and autograph cards in them.  Each box contains a costume card.  You may also find a prop or autograph card in a box as well, but every box does not come with an autograph and prop card.  When you buy a case of boxes (there are ten boxes to a case) you will get on average ten costume cards, three prop cards, and I can't exactly remember how many autograph and film cards come in a case. Everytime a new set is released a thread is created that will give you the ratio of costume. autograph, film and prop cards per box.  Check the forum titled Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix for the imformation on that set.  The ratios for the World of Harry Potter 3D set can already be found in its thread.  You will find the link to them on the forum index page.  Here are what the costume, prop, and autograph cards look like in the 3D set.  The autograph card shown is a redemption card.  When you get one of these, you have to send this card to Artbox, and they will send you the actual autograph card.  Some of the autograph cards are redemption cards, and some will be the actual autograph card.  It just depends.  On the back of the redemption card you will find the address to mail it to.




I hope I haven't confused you too much.



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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2007, 03:27:35 AM »

Thank you for explaining that in detail. Just to be clear, retail boxes absolutely have no props/costumes/autograph cards? How do I tell the difference between a retail and hobby box?

Also, does everyone on this site just buy boxes and cases online?
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2007, 03:36:58 AM »

A great start Smiley thanks Terry.

Retail boxes in general don't contain anything except base and chase, (apart from PoA Update which contained one of 2 costumes). It's quite simple. Hobby boxes promise a chance of costumes/props/autos on the front of each box and pack, whereas retail just say exciting foil cards or something similar.

The official reason for the 'update set' is that they aren't allowed to show much CG or too many images before the movie comes out. So... they release a set later on including lots of images.

In truth it also makes lots of money for Artbox....

Hopefully Terry's got you started enough to take a browse around these forums and get to know a little more about them. The price guide shows details of pretty much every Potter card made (www.theyakshack.co.uk/tradingcards) so that would be a good place to see them.

Got to rush off I'm afraid, but welcome to the forum and the world of HP cards Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2007, 04:26:22 AM »

Hi Dio,they do not sell at walmart or target stores.sometimes you can find them in comic book stores or non-sports trading cards stores.but your best bet is  Ebay!. good luck and thanks for joining the collectors world.
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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2007, 05:40:16 AM »

Hi Dio  welcoe to the Yak Shack  I do all my buying of boxes binders case online there are a few great sellers that sell them .
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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2007, 07:43:51 AM »

It's possible that some WalMart and Target stores could carry the hobby packs, but usually they only carry retail configurations. One reason is that hobby packs tend to cost more than retail packs because of the chances of pulling scarce inserts. The second is that these stores are almost always by-the-pack, so the moment a box is opened, somebody will have cherry-picked the pack with a thick costume or prop card.

Sometimes a retail version of the cards will have an insert subset that's different from any that are in the hobby packs, but Artbox doesn't do this as much as (say) Topps, where they market 6-pack boxes with a bonus card that's exclusive to each mass-market chain. Artbox doesn't make a retail version for every set they produce; usually the "retail" buyers are kids (or parents who are nagged into it at the checkout counter). The Artbox equivalent has been to sell collector's "tins" with a limited number of packs, perhaps with exclusive bonus cards inside.

Still, some "retail" packs can contain costume or prop cards, usually different from those in the hobby boxes. POA Update had two retail costume cards that weren't part of the hobby distribution. The card companies are quite aware that some people will want to buy boxes of both types if there's something different inside.

The reason the "World of HP" set is different from the ones devoted strictly to one of the movies is ... Artbox paid for the Harry Potter card license, and they'll produce as many sets as they can get away with, as long as we keep buying them. They really needed to bring out the 3D set before the start of the fifth movie because if they cover only four films, they have a perfect plan for the "World of Harry Potter Update" following Movie 7. A split of 4+3 works a lot better than a split of 5+2. For the same reason they brought out "Memorable Moments" and "Poster Cards" covering the first four films.

Artbox had the license to produce "FilmCardz" and "Action Flipz" for a number of properties, and we would have seen many more of them if they had sold better. The film-cel technology lived on as Cinema Cel inserts for the first few HP movie sets, and some of the technology for the flipz was adapted first for case-toppers and then for the 3D set.

Quite often in the past, cards were shipped almost a month before a movie premiered. That was a good excuse to say you couldn't include some of the best images from the movie because it would spoil it for the audience. This time, the studio made sure that the hobby cards weren't supposed to go on sale until after OOTP started. But the card companies still have a perfect excuse for an Update set, scheduled to take advantage of renewed interest when the movie is released to DVD.

A lot of TV or movie-related sets had multiple series, like 5 of them for the first Star Wars. They did a Series 2 for SW Episode One in 1999. But the phenomenon of a set of 90 cards, followed by an Update set with numbering starting at 91 at DVD time, became a regular thing with Lord of the Rings. It was pretty clear to me that Artbox planned their first Harry Potter movie release (POA) on the LOTR model, even hiring the same card designer to produce a very similar layout and content.

Artbox even put all of the marketing pieces together when they issued factory tins for Lord of the Rings Action Flipz. There were (count 'em) 24 different tins and combinations of bonus cards to collect. If people didn't want to buy a lot of the flipz, maybe we can entice them to buy the tins.  Wink

I expect to see "retrospective" sets for Harry Potter for many years after the release of the seventh movie. One thing I liked about World In 3D is that they had a very nice selection of shots that hadn't been on any of the (many) previous card sets.
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