Torchwood

[Guest]

[Morningangel-Iola]

Well that was brilliant am now hooked Oh and is the hand the one the doctor lost at Christmas?

[Roz]

... and is the hand the one the doctor lost at Christmas?

Argh! I can't remember - can you remind me what happened?

[iwozframed]

That was fantastic definately a must watch!

BUT Just because it was shown after the watershed, Didn't mean they had to shoehorn 3 swear words into it!
This definately could have been primetime sat. stuff, post Dr. Who. It's not more adult it's just on later. 

[Morningangel-Iola]

He was fighting with Sycrax and the Sycrax cut his hand off in the fight but luckily because he had just regenerated he grew a new one.

[Morningangel-Iola]

It's not more adult it's just on later. 

How many times did she have sex! I definately think its more adult.

[Roz]

Thanks Dawn. I really need to buy the box sets of series 1&2

So Jack is 'invinceable' so-to-speak. Very interesting. Although that doesn't explain a great deal. I think we last saw him on the TV space station, just left there (for dead). I wonder how he got back to earth, and whether we'll find that out. It sounds like it's going to interweave a little with Dr Who series 3 since Jack is thought to be in there a bit

I really enjoyed it. I'm not sure ep 2 should have been in front of the watershed... weird but cool!

I love their portable cell-generator

[iwozframed]

How many times did she have sex! I definately think its more adult.

Once at the start(which could have just been inside a closed cubicle) every other time she got stopped.

All the rest is just a topic that shows up on any soap(OK I know am pushing this a little, But when you watch it again you'll see)

I love their portable cell-generator

And seen as I'm being Mr nasty can anyone say Ghostbusters 

Just in case I didn't get my original point across, this is top notch and I'm only being picky

[Morningangel-Iola]

I have them on tape but haven't watched them lately I do want to watch the Christmas one again.

From what I read somewhere maybe wiki I think. Jack died on the game station but was brought back to life by something can't think what. Hang on here's what the wiki says.

"Jack organised the defence of the Game Station against the Daleks in The Parting of the Ways to give the Doctor enough time to construct a Delta Wave projector. With the rest of his volunteer squad killed, Jack was the last to be exterminated, facing down the Dalek guns with quiet defiance rather than the traditional screaming deaths of Dalek victims. Although Rose brought him back to life while she was suffused with the power of the time vortex, neither the Doctor nor Rose (whose memory was affected) seemed aware of his resurrection and left the Game Station in the TARDIS, leaving Jack behind.

In the Children in Need mini-episode, Rose suggests to the recently-regenerated Tenth Doctor they go back for Jack. The Doctor, in turn, replies that Jack is busy "rebuilding the Earth". How much either knows about Jack's status is unclear; the Doctor's comment suggests that he either knows (or wants Rose to believe) that Jack survived, while Rose was not present when Jack died."

Yes he supposed to be back in series three.

Yup thats cool.

[Roz]

What I enjoyed was that although it was a 'spin off' and there were connections, it wasn't just playing on the Dr Who name the whole time, there was no attempt at time travel (after all, we know nothing about Jack, but I daresay he's not a timelord - principally 'our' doctor is the last one, and had Jack been one the Dr would have recognised it I'm sure), there was no name dropping, just a few connections - the rift in Cardiff, the hand (good one Dawn), obviously the whole concept of Torchwood that they'd already build up inside Dr Who proper.

You aren't going to believe it but there is already a fairly comprehensive Wiki page for the first Ep... that will only grow though - 2 is pretty small at the mo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everything_Changes_%28Torchwood%29

[Morningangel-Iola]

Yes talking of the rift do you realise that Gwen was the maid who died in that rift in series one? Yes it could be watched separately. The only thing is because we watch Dr Who we know more about Jack that his colleagues do.

Interesting, they are on the ball. I didn't realise the invisible paving stone thingy was where the TARDIS landed.

[Roz]

Yeah I think I'd heard that somewhere. I'm glad

I think maybe they've watched Dr Who a couple more times than us I didn't pick up on it being the place where the Tardis landed either, although we should have recognised the scene

[Morningangel-Iola]

Have you seen what they said about the hand?

"The Doctor's severed hand from The Christmas Invasion can be seen pickled in a jar at the Torchwood Hub... In episode two, Day One, Captain Jack proves to be quite protective of the hand, as it is the only connection to the Doctor he has left. As Jack cradles the hand, the familiar "Doctor's theme" from the new Doctor Who series can be heard, further implying that the hand does in fact belong to the Doctor."

I didn't spot the music though. I really think we need to watch Dr Who again

[Roz]

I didn't spot the music though. I really think we need to watch Dr Who again

Neither did I...we really ought to buy the boxed set!

[Morningangel-Iola]

It would just be for research perposes of course.

Have you been to the Torchwood website? its a bit slow for those of us without broadband

Did you recoginse Owen from Bleak House? and I think Ianto gets all the rubbish jobs 

[Roz]

*cough* right... Research

Did you recoginse Owen from Bleak House? and I think Ianto gets all the rubbish jobs 

Yeah I certainly did that mouth shape is unmistakeable

[Sharon]

Well that was amazing 

I picked up on the paving slab being where the TARDIS was but I had no idea about the hand (I am another one who needs to re-watch the first series).  And I had completely forgotten about Rose resurrecting Jack until a colleague at work explained it today.

All in all I think this is going to be one not to miss 

[Morningangel-Iola]

See we all remeber different bits. Yeah I didn't remember the resurrection either until I read it on wiki.

Forgot to mention;

"The opening episodes of Doctor Who spin-off Torchwood drew the largest digital channel audience for a non-sport programme, says the BBC"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6077078.stm

[Morningangel-Iola]

Did anyone watch it again? I know Sharon was threatening to.

I do want to know why Jack found the girls kissing so interesting as everyone is bisexual where he comes from so must be a common occurances, maybe it is but its still fascinating to him

[Morningangel-Iola]

What did everyone think of last nights one. I thought it was great. Just one question when Gwen saw herself did she say that Owen had killed him or he wanted to kill him?

[Sharon]

I saw it (what a surprise  ).  I thought future Gwen just said that Owen had the knife but I will listen more carefully on the next viewing tonight