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« Reply #120 on: January 30, 2007, 04:21:55 AM » |
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« Reply #122 on: January 30, 2007, 04:36:58 AM » |
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Well, that's pretty cool. I've seen the blue Karkaroff, but not the white Beaubaton.  |
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« Reply #124 on: January 30, 2007, 05:02:13 AM » |
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Thanks for showing the two different cards with the same swatch material............finally !!!!!!!! I said it months ago and I'll say it again...the blue Karkoff was an error card...as in this one is also an error card...Hey Terry you can sell it for $450..if you list it and claim that without this error card....no wait I mean variant you can't have a true master set....just like the Blue Karkoff listing...the'll be busting down your door with cash in hand wanting to get it....Maureen
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« Reply #125 on: January 30, 2007, 05:16:58 AM » |
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There we go... I knew the worms would be out.
To me it makes no difference. It's still a variation on the norm... it's just not a "special" bit of costume (patch, seam etc.) which we have come to associate with the word variant. I don't think that it sold at the price because it was described as a "variant", and I don't think that the OP will be selling anyway.
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« Reply #126 on: January 30, 2007, 06:21:37 AM » |
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I hate to differ on this one with you Roz but that Karkoff blue card did sell at that price ...because the word Variant was all over the listing...remember the listing with quotes of.... only 2 ever seen both in the U.K./can't be a true master set without it.......in the listing nowhere did I ever see the word ERROR on that listing...THIS IS where the discussion started was it a true variant or a true error
In the sense of card collecting sports or nonsports...a variant card is something that is completely different...but should be on the card
An error card is something that wasn't suppose to be on the card, or has nothing to do with that particular card....like swatches or printing for that matter
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« Reply #127 on: January 30, 2007, 12:08:08 PM » |
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Congratulations Zack! Those are excellent variants!  LOVE the Fleur variant--it's gorgeous. The banner prop is absolutely amazing--the best! The blue Karkaroff and White Beauxbatons cards are clearly mistakes, but it sort of makes them different, I guess...I had gotten a GOF filmcard that had two filmcells one on top of the other, both of Hermione--the weird part...one was a close up of Hermione in GOF, the other was of Hermione in her pink sweater from POA.  I wound up keeping it because it was different. |
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« Reply #128 on: January 30, 2007, 01:09:23 PM » |
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Didnt the GOF trailer have clips from the earlier three movies, showing the "growing up" of the characters? That would explain the two different Hermione pics...
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« Reply #129 on: January 30, 2007, 05:27:41 PM » |
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I hate to differ on this one with you Roz but that Karkoff blue card did sell at that price ...because the word Variant was all over the listing...remember the listing with quotes of.... only 2 ever seen both in the U.K./can't be a true master set without it.......in the listing nowhere did I ever see the word ERROR on that listing...THIS IS where the discussion started was it a true variant or a true error
In the sense of card collecting sports or nonsports...a variant card is something that is completely different...but should be on the card
An error card is something that wasn't suppose to be on the card, or has nothing to do with that particular card....like swatches or printing for that matter
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« Reply #130 on: January 30, 2007, 07:12:56 PM » |
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I had a little Google to define variant. There was loads of definitions but here are a couple - A slightly different version of a figure, typically found in smaller numbers than its standard counterpart. Can either be due to a change in production, such as the three Jean Grey figures from the X-Men movie line, or a specific choice on the part of the manufacturer, such as the yellow and brown Daredevil from Spider-Man Classics Series II.
discrepancy: an event that departs from expectations I'm not quite sure why the first one singles out the X Men but as I like the X Men I thought it was appropriate  Bottom line is that the blue Karkaroff and White Beauxbatons are a slightly different versions of the original. How that occured is neither here nor there, provided they haven't been tampered with post production. And I will bet my eye teeth that there is not one serious collector on the Shack who would have returned either of these cards to Artbox for them to replaced with 'correct cards'. I would have loved to have pulled either of these cards and congratulate whoever has them in their collection now. No they are not essential for a master set but I certainly don't blame the seller for putting this in their Ebay listing - how many times have you seen the ultra rare Lupin Shirt up for sale  . Yes Roz we are now knee deep in lumbricidae, should I throw in Boggy's white Arwen at this stage  |
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« Reply #131 on: January 30, 2007, 07:46:03 PM » |
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Nope I wouldn't have returned it I tried offering all sorts of things to Graham for the Arwen - huge quantities of money, his own personal cartoonist (yes, Britain might have been the one to abolish slavery, but I was ready to start it again  ) etc. but he wasn't for budging |
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« Reply #132 on: January 30, 2007, 09:04:12 PM » |
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Variant, variation, or error -- In the end, does it really matter? If someone is willing to pay any given amount for a card that's different from the norm, more power to 'em.
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« Reply #134 on: January 30, 2007, 11:57:04 PM » |
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I had gotten a GOF filmcard that had two filmcells one on top of the other, both of Hermione--the weird part...one was a close up of Hermione in GOF, the other was of Hermione in her pink sweater from POA. I wound up keeping it because it was different. If the POA scene is in the GOF trailer then it sounds more like a nice variant to me than an error filmcard. Look:  It's one of my favorite filmcards, it has Harry from Sorcerer's Stone changing into Harry from COS and the filmcard is of Harry in GOF so it's like 3 Harrys in a CFC. And i consider it a variant, at least that's what it is to me, even if someone else were to tell me it's an error i'd still keep it. So that one's a keeper Bitsy, congrats ! |
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« Reply #135 on: January 31, 2007, 12:20:52 AM » |
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Wow, I love it! That's definitely a keeper, for both of you.  |
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« Reply #136 on: January 31, 2007, 03:14:07 AM » |
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Well, I bought it off of ebay as a varient. Would you believe I only paid a BIN price of $21.95? I think it's a nice addition to my collection. Artbox offered to replace it, but I already had both the light blue and the dark blue, so I decided to keep it.
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« Reply #137 on: January 31, 2007, 08:17:10 AM » |
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Well, I bought it off of ebay as a varient. Would you believe I only paid a BIN price of $21.95? I think it's a nice addition to my collection. Artbox offered to replace it, but I already had both the light blue and the dark blue, so I decided to keep it.
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« Reply #138 on: January 31, 2007, 09:31:21 AM » |
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I had gotten a GOF filmcard that had two filmcells one on top of the other, both of Hermione--the weird part...one was a close up of Hermione in GOF, the other was of Hermione in her pink sweater from POA. I wound up keeping it because it was different. If the POA scene is in the GOF trailer then it sounds more like a nice variant to me than an error filmcard. Look: It's one of my favorite filmcards, it has Harry from Sorcerer's Stone changing into Harry from COS and the filmcard is of Harry in GOF so it's like 3 Harrys in a CFC. And i consider it a variant, at least that's what it is to me, even if someone else were to tell me it's an error i'd still keep it. So that one's a keeper Bitsy, congrats ! That's a lot like mine, except mine has Hermione! It never dawned on me that it could have been a transition through the films. Wow! Thank you for sharing, Galea! I guess we have a couple of filmcard variants...and I am definitely keeping it! |
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« Reply #139 on: January 31, 2007, 06:14:42 PM » |
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Well, I bought it off of ebay as a varient. Would you believe I only paid a BIN price of $21.95? I think it's a nice addition to my collection.
Well that's even better Congratulations (and yes I am jealous ) Those film cells are brilliant. I can now see how they would be the transition scenes, very rare |
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