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« on: April 22, 2006, 03:12:33 PM »

What does everyone think of this little beauty! Cant believe it myself!! Shocked Grin



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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2006, 03:17:09 PM »

WOW, Thats Awesome!

Did you pull it ?
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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2006, 04:01:12 PM »

Did you pull it ?

ROFL!

Did you see who the artist was Martyn?? Tongue

I've got to be honest, I think it's great. I like Aragorn, Leggy and Gandalf in particular. And I love the lava around the ring Cheesy

Great stuff Wink
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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2006, 04:45:42 PM »

I cannot make out who the Artist is!  Who is it Roz?  The Aragorn looks almost exactly like my avatar of him fighting at Helm's Deep!   Smiley  It's not Randy is it? 
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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2006, 05:18:05 PM »

There's a better piccy here on Randy's site

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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2006, 06:02:49 PM »

Well I must say that this 9 sketch card set is the ultimate "Fellowship" set that anyone could ever want.  Is Randy selling it or is it just for display?  Please include Randy's web site link for us Roz.  Thanks.   Smiley   I think this blows away anything done by Kayanan!
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2006, 08:40:07 PM »

   I think this blows away anything done by Kayanan!
I think that is a little extreme.. If Rapheal took as much time on his cards as Randy did on these I think you would eat those words with a pickle and a pint
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2006, 08:48:37 PM »

you would eat those words with a pickle and a pint

I do like that phrase, it's not one I've heard before Smiley

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I just made it up as I wrote that...I may have started something special right here.. just now...it is documented in here forever.. I coined a phrase!!



....runs to the copywrite office
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2006, 08:55:08 PM »

Cheesy

Copyrighting law... oh that's fun that is *snore*

(sorry had to look into it recently).

Kayanans a genius... when we've picked up Ed's jaw from his desk after seeing this and given him a cup of tea he'll remember that

*Roz is still gutted that she missed out on the Kayanan of PJ's daughter for $400 Sad*
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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2006, 01:30:01 PM »

What does everyone think of this little beauty! Cant believe it myself!! Shocked Grin



 Shocked Shocked

    I will be honest, seeing this sketch he did, on some level bums me out. I understand about topps being sticky with the rules of how , what, why etc. when it comes to sketch's...AND I UNDERSTAND that artists are only getting paid 1.50 in some cases per sketch card...BUT, if you notice, on the CUSTOM commission sketch's all artists are doing and ebaying, they are all amazing works of art...and whats harsh, is that a lot of time, the artists who are doing these amazing works for themselves, are the artists who (to be brutally honest) you are praying NOT TO pull when you plunk down 70 dollars (or more) for a box.
     They get the point that better is what people want, because they are doing the best jobs of their lives for the commission sales. Thats great! i TOTALLY support that. You DO NEED to look out for number one. BUT, by that same token, it almost shows a type of disrespect to the fans who put the hard earned money into the product, to pull a sketch that took literally 20 secs to complete, and almost as long to sign their name to it. Then , to top it off, most of the artists who did this incredibly simple, churned out (honestly) horrid sketch's, signed them in INK in many cases...because they didn't want em getting erased (which on a side note,to me seems selfish and admitting of guilt , that you know no one wants to see most of those sketch's, so you make it so they cant become someones DREAM commission card down the road). You can tell thats a deliberate act, because in the past they never signed em in ink (hence some amazing worthwhile Star wars sketch's, lol).

I guess what this gets down to, is have a little respect for the fans. If you know the artwork your producing, isn't very good and you are capable of producing WAY better material...then...DONT. Don't take 1000 sketch orders. if you can only do say 500 that look good and worth having, then just do that. I'm not saying each one has to be an actual work of art (god forbid), but guys, don't turn out any more of these sketch's that took longer to SIGN then to draw. AND, if you cant find it in yourself to do that, then please don't sign em in ink to make sure no one ELSE ever does something worthwhile on the sketch card (BTW, ink can be removed very easily without damaging a card. Its a moot point to try and stop that practice by ink signing).

p.s. Every artist got paid different amounts per sketch. I would have to imagine quality was a MAJOR deciding factor in that...probably hurts you in the long run anyway PAY wise to take the 1000 sketch orders, when you see what most artists come out with after 1000 Sketch's (with the possible exception of Hodges, who's work was kinda interesting even at that high printrun).

Oh well, lets get our hate on.
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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2006, 01:36:58 PM »

Amen to that.
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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2006, 01:40:14 PM »

ditto
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« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2006, 09:00:43 PM »

Well that may be true Cat but I have not seen any of Kayanan's work of comparable quality in the Evolution set.  He has created interesting and highly sought after work.  Mr. Kayanan gets everyone going with his artwok for this set and then does not accept any commission work.   Huh   I don't know about you but I did not have the money to purchase case after case of Evolution.  I could only afford 3 boxes and of those 3 boxes I only received 1 sketch card per box.  Dealers for the most part pulled the Kayanan's and are charging as much as a house mortgage payment for them.  So now you have this demand for his work but it cannot be fulfilled because he is not accepting commission work.  If you know him I would appreciate you asking him why and post his answer here because many of us would like to know and get sketch cards by him.  Will he ever be available to do commission work?  I can understand being under contract and not being able to do side work but that has to end at some point doesn't it?

I was only just commenting on the fact that Randy has created some very nice artwork regardless of the time he spent on it and I guess my frustration with Kayanan's work being out of my price range and non ability to get commission work from him entered my writing.
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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2006, 09:27:29 PM »

I don;t know Rapheal well enough to speak for him but he has been in the business a LONG time and probably done not take commissions because he does not have time to do them. That would be my guess.. it is not a slight on the fans of the LOTR set. It doesn't make him a bad guy in fact he is quite the opposite. He probably just has a full schedule...believe me when I say this...art is not something that can be churned out on a daily basis, like accounting. The numbers don't always add up. There are days where you just don;t feel like working and it would be a mistake to do so as the end result probably would not be your best(you can see that on a few of my cards). But it is a job that is all day everyday and deadlines don't move very often and they are already too short anyway. Not really many days off in this gig. Check and see if he hits some conventions, like Comic Con...that may be your best chance for a sketch.
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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2006, 02:44:56 PM »

There are days where you just don;t feel like working and it would be a mistake to do so as the end result probably would not be your best(you can see that on a few of my cards).

I think you are mistaken to believe that's a trait exclusive to artists. Everyone has days like that, usually after marathon days of inspiration and hard work in the previous few days
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« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2006, 04:00:23 PM »

Everyone has days like that, usually after marathon days of inspiration and hard work in the previous few days

Ooooh - and don't I know it well! :'(
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« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2006, 04:03:49 PM »

One thing for sure. Sketches with very little complexity (I am being non-abusive here...be nice.) should fetch a much higher price. Why you ask?
Obvious, it will be easier to erase when you send it in for a commissioned piece for yourself. Not as  much work for the artist and a cleaner finished product with faster turn around to you. Now, now... don't let's all rush out and bid the price up on those simple yet elegant sketches.   ROFL! ROFL! ROFL! ROFL! ROFL!   GOTCHA
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« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2006, 03:03:01 AM »

All oif the artists were paid the same. Whether it was me, Rafael, Cat, Randy, or anyone... everyone was paid the same $1.50 per card from Topps. It was up to the artist as to how much detail to put into their cards...

I plan on doing a lot less from now on so I CAN do more detailed cards.
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« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2006, 03:16:06 AM »

I plan on doing a lot less from now on so I CAN do more detailed cards.
That's good to know as I found lots to love from your stuff with Evolution - the ones I enjoy looking at the most are obviously the more detailed ones...
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« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2006, 03:35:40 AM »

Everyone has days like that, usually after marathon days of inspiration and hard work in the previous few days

Ooooh - and don't I know it well! :'(

Sheesh, that's every day from 9-6 for me!!! ROFL!
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