Harry Potter Memorable Moments™ Quotable Trading Card Set.

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[HPfamily]

i think it will be later as they seem to be trying to get as many sketches done as they can

Gotta love you Chris - you have Masterpieces on the brain permanently!

 

[gimli]

you know what i am loosing it posting in the wrong thread again


well I think that Memorable Moments will be later rather than sooner it has been the way with every potter set

[bush360]

I was just reading through this thread and I thought I could remember someone mentioning some of the actual props and costumes that were in this set. Is there anything confirmed interms of the props or costumes yet.

[Roz]

It looks like the 'cast resin resin' (plastic ) case will be inserted at a rate of one per case, and the other 9 boxes per case will be normal display boxes - that's a relief for those of us wondering about shipping and storage 

[allender]

I sort of had the impression that the cost of the resin boxes is why the distributor price was so high. This might turn into some very interesting discussions, possibly with some people being displeased.

Interesting for the boxes already presold. For the two auctions in the Price Guide, the one that sold 3 boxes just said that the boxes would feature the lavish Harry Potter design. The one that sold 5 boxes said the boxes would be of a resin design.

Of course, there may still be some details which Artbox hasn't decided yet. 

[Roz]

We were also told at one point that there'd be "double inserts"... which doesn't seem to be coming true either. I don't see any reason why this release is so expensive - you could cite the cost of the three big autos, but they must be offset by the five billion death eater auto costume cards we are likely to be force-fed.

[gimli]

I would hope there will be a reduction in the cost of this product since artbox must have reduced their cost quite a bit

even if you didn't want 10 of the resin boxes at least it was something else to sell to make up for the increased price

[Bitsy]

I'm just wondering what those people who don't know about the Shack will do when they get their order and the boxes are NOT resin, collectible, or otherwise.    I would imagine there will be some very displeased people.  I know that I will likely not get a resin box out of the two I bought, which then makes me wonder why I would be required to pay the $70+ dollars for regular boxes.  The bottom line is, when I ordered I expected the boxes to be resin/higher quality.  Now, I'm not getting what I bargained for--I think that if there isn't a drop in the prices, there are going to be some very angry buyers.     

[gimli]

My only thought is thank goodness I didn't sell any early on pre order I don't have to deal with any customers who will be disappointed by this

[bush360]

It is yet another time where I feel let down by artbox I have 4 cases on order and will be opening all boxes and breaking down the inserts seperately as I always do. I really do not know why they have even bothered with one resin box now unless this resin box will contain something pretty special.
I for one am not someone to have the wool pulled over my eyes but this is what it feels like, I mean POAU ruined many a card dealer due to poor collation and incorrect insert ratios. Even if the boxes are part of a smaller production run this alone does not warrant a higher price, if the props and costumes are not limited very low and inserted only to 2 a box even then people are not stupid and wont pay $70 for a $45 box.
It is doing my head in just thinking about everything, one thing is for sure the longer I think about it the more unhappy I feel about this sets prospects.

Here is hoping my pesimisim will be proved totally wrong once I get my cases cus one thing is for sure I dont think I will feel better with further anouncements before it is released.

[ferdinand_the_yak]

If we are indeed getting the usual 2 inserts per box and 9 regular display boxes per case, I don't see how Artbox can possibly charge $70 per box. As Rich has said, who cares if its a low production run, that alone does not justify the increased price, especially as we can pretty much guess that the most desirable inserts will make up only a tiny fraction of the run anyway. I'm only sharing a case, but its definitely made me think about whether I want to pay a premium price for what is pretty much a regular release but with half the print run

[Bitsy]

Exactly.

I am a bit put off about paying so much extra for TWO boxes I THOUGHT were going to be resin, collectors boxes, one of which I was going to give as a gift.  Now, I find out that they are (likely) going to be regular, old cardboard boxes that ordinarily cost around $55 pre-order.  What's more disappointing is that I could have ordered more boxes had they been at the regular price--after all, they will be like the other series releases.  And though I am looking forward to the coin inserts (hopefully not by redemption), I still don't feel much better about the high prices.     Like Rich, I hope my pessimism will be miraculously turned about after the set is released.

[kbmum]

My guess is that Artbox will say the limited print run of 375 cases justifies the higher price.

[Bitsy]

My guess is that Artbox will say the limited print run of 375 cases justifies the higher price.

No doubt, I think you are definitely right.  But, does it justify a good $20, $25, $30 additional cost?    I think it can be argued either way. 

[kbmum]

There had better be some killer inserts and at least two inserts per box.

[beatles99]

The only thing I thought that was special about the print run was that we weren't getting any costume card at 2000 print or another Quidditch robe (lord how many of those are out there), the resin box was a big deal, also the shipping presale cost was a big deal. I paid $88.00 a box with shipping factored in to get a rare print run in a resin box...do you think my dealers is going to offer a refund??? To me this is no different as them turning around and saying sorry Maggie Smith is not signing now...the delays were bad enough now this sudden turn around about promised product not offered anymore...already sent a nasty email to Artbox telling them to get thier S--T together or watch the Chamber of Secrets sales die down

[Bryanjs14]

Artbox will soon be a defunct company anyways.
Think about it...do they cater to collectors? No, they pull stuff like this ALL the time...has there been ANY Artbox release that went smoothly?
Do they cater to dealers? HECK NO...think about the SDCC Mystery Boxes...I am friends with two smaller dealers who I met last year and saw again this year. In a conversation with them they both said they are prob going to go buy a ton of mystery boxes, and not buy any more boxes to sell or carry singles...why buy cases and cases to try and get a Quad when you have a 1:50 chance of getting it each day in the Mystery boxes (at least Artbox told me two quads were inserted each day and there were 100 boxes a day) for just a LITTLE bit more than a Hobby box? I am not a dealer in any way, I sell some stuff on Ebay, but I definetly agree with them that there is no point in buying cases and cases of their products when you can just pull the premium cards at a fraction of the odds, and at a fraction of the price.

[allender]

It may be a bit early to say. Plenty of manufacturers have tried experiments that seemed like a good idea to somebody at the time but backfired, and the question becomes whether they listen to the feedback. And at least they do read our comments.

I agree completely with the non-dealer-friendly nature of quads in mystery bags, but I note (for instance) that a lot of people have petitioned Rittenhouse to make limited numbers of their multiple-case-incentive cards available in packs. That's another side of the same coin, in my opinion. Some things that they choose to do that might seem to be collector-friendly aren't great for the dealers.

One of the least dealer friendly actions happened with the very first case buy I ever made for a new product, the first X-Men Movie. Topps didn't receive a couple of the autographs in time to put them in packs, so they offered them as incentives to dealers who reordered additional cases when the print run didn't sell out. Now, wasn't that a kick in the teeth to the most loyal customers who had preordered the first time around?

Very true about the lack of smoothness that keeps things muddy for collectors. Some of that might be growing pains or changes in management, but they've done a decent job of getting time-critical sets out (when the cards release has to coincide with a film's release). I can't really understand the confusion about the design and release for HPMM and HPCoS except possible difficulties in qualifying new manufacturing subcontractors for the coins, like they had difficulties in finding new printing partners when the whole HP series started selling so well. Still, they haven't gone into the mode of some companies that announce sets and then don't produce them when presales don't reach a target level.

Every major manufacturer (and a lot of "former" card companies) has done something I've disliked quite a bit. Some approaches that I consider anti-collector or anti-dealer have become routine practices.

My opinion on HPMM is that it had better be something very special that will make up for the confusion, or I expect them to refund some of the presale money. They can keep the con-mystery-bag idea, but make the insertion rate of cards-also-in-packs lower or replace them (perhaps) with con exclusives.

[kbmum]

The only thing I thought that was special about the print run was that we weren't getting any costume card at 2000 print or another Quidditch robe (lord how many of those are out there)

Well...since we have so few details about the set, there could be more Quidditch costumes.   We've heard talk of dual costume and prop cards.  If the fabrics are from costumes we haven't seen yet in a set, that's great, but I'm afraid we'll get a POA dual Quidditch costume card of Harry and George.  I don't care if a card like that is numbered to 50, I won't be interested in it.

Still, they haven't gone into the mode of some companies that announce sets and then don't produce them when presales don't reach a target level.

I believe that every HP set so far as sold out, no matter how many complaints there were prior to release.  Artbox has had problems with other releases, too, like Frankenstein and Doom.

[allender]

If the fabrics are from costumes we haven't seen yet in a set, that's great, but I'm afraid we'll get a POA dual Quidditch costume card of Harry and George.  I don't care if a card like that is numbered to 50, I won't be interested in it.

How about a nice all-black swatch of one of Harry's robes, numbered to 50?

Or my favorite, "One Leprechaun Gold Coin in every pack!" (But open your packs right away, or it might disappear.) 

I'm trying very hard to maintain a positive attitude towards the set ...