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« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2006, 09:05:50 AM » |
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Bejebus H. Fhrist, those Artbox vampires need to stop sucking my wallet dry (I opened it up and could swear I saw cobwebs in it with little 'Made by Artbox' tags...hm, maybe they'll be collectable :p). *sigh* So, wonder how many chase (and by chase I don't mean foil cards or any of that crud, I mean auto, prop, or costume cards) we can expect from each box. *sigh* I need to get a better paying job.
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« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2006, 12:32:03 PM » |
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I'll believe they can get this out so quickly when I see them on the doorstep.
Keep in mind this is Artbox... Who said the Goblet of Fire Update would be released at the same time as the DVD. Who said the Poster Set would arrive in March (rumour is now June). Who said there would be 2 Zorro sets last year, and produced none. Who said there would be a Frankenstein set in October, now maybe June.
I just don't see them getting it done so quickly. Harry Potter is their cash cow right now, so I'm sure they'll do it. But I'm guessing we have a bit to save before this one gets released.
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« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2006, 05:32:26 PM » |
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« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2006, 08:52:02 PM » |
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I'll believe they can get this out so quickly when I see them on the doorstep.
Keep in mind this is Artbox... Who said the Goblet of Fire Update would be released at the same time as the DVD. Who said the Poster Set would arrive in March (rumour is now June). Who said there would be 2 Zorro sets last year, and produced none. Who said there would be a Frankenstein set in October, now maybe June.
I just don't see them getting it done so quickly. Harry Potter is their cash cow right now, so I'm sure they'll do it. But I'm guessing we have a bit to save before this one gets released. A September release would work MUCH better for me! I'd really like a Maggie Smith auto! I saw her in Lettice and Loveage in 1988 when I was in London....
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« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2006, 12:20:01 AM » |
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I just don't see them getting it done so quickly. Harry Potter is their cash cow right now, so I'm sure they'll do it. But I'm guessing we have a bit to save before this one gets released. Ed
I REALLY hope so!! I feel like I'm drowning right now!!  Bejebus H. Fhrist, those Artbox vampires need to stop sucking my wallet dry (I opened it up and could swear I saw cobwebs in it with little 'Made by Artbox' tags...hm, maybe they'll be collectable :p). *sigh*
 Ain't THAT the truth!!! 
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« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2006, 03:56:30 AM » |
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I'm feeling pretty panicked about it, too. How are collectors supposed to pay for one release and while chasing inserts for that set, put up more money to pay for a different release? And then do the same thing again the next month? This is not a good business decision. People won't give Artbox more of their money -- they'll spend the same amount but spread it out over all of the releases.
Having said that, I think Memorable Moments sounds awesome. If Chamber of Secrets comes out a month or two later, though, I'm afraid I'll have to pass and hope I can find a few cards on eBay.
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« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2006, 04:55:56 PM » |
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I don't understand Artbox.  The only thing that makes sense for me would be a release of MM in late August if they really want to release MM and CoS this year. Then the plan should be May GOFU, August MM, November CoS, right before Christmas. 3 months between every release. Then they can have anything in February before the big OOTP-release will be in May 2007. That would be my plan, if i would be the manager of Artbox. CoS before November would be definately a wrong decision. 
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« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2006, 05:37:40 PM » |
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Artbox had a nice schedule with releases in May and November (approximately). There was plenty of time to have fun with one release and then save up for the next. GOFU in May, MM in August, and COS in November is okay, although I'd like a little more time between releases. The OOTP movie is scheduled to open in July 2007, so Artbox could issue some of the specialty/limited edition sets during the winter and spring before the OOTP cards are released in July.
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« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2006, 05:44:59 PM » |
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.. , although I'd like a little more time between releases. Yes, of course i agree, this would be better. I just wanted to say that 3 months between every release is the acceptable minimum, better are 6 months, that's right. The OOTP movie is scheduled to open in July 2007, so Artbox could issue some of the specialty/limited edition sets during the winter and spring before the OOTP cards are released in July.
I'm sure, the cards will be released before July, we had this with the last movies too. May or early June in my opinion.
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« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2006, 05:54:38 PM » |
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Three months between releases would definitely be better than one every month. I just can't believe they'd even consider that schedule. You're right about the OOTP release -- most likely the cards will be shipped a month before the movie. Still, that would give Artbox about five months in 2007 to release a couple of the smaller sets.
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« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2006, 06:02:49 PM » |
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I totally agree with everyone else - this is just too much. There is only a certain amount of money to go around and if Artbox keep swamping the market people will get disheartened and stop collecting altogether. Of course I expect this will have a knock on effect for the dealers - they will buy their usual amount of say GOFU which will sell out but by the time COS comes around the collectors will be broke and the dealers will be left with a load of stock. When OotP comes out dealers will simply not risk getting stuck with large amounts of stock and stop ordering so much from Artbox. I know this is a looking way into the future but it is really something Artbox should consider. We all want every set but they must give us time to go out and earn/save the money to buy them.
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« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2006, 07:45:34 PM » |
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I totally agree with everyone else - this is just too much. There is only a certain amount of money to go around Not to mention only a certain amount of quality insert cards. How many HP sets can Artbox produce every year and still expect customer anticipation? There has to be a point when collecters get sick of pulling prop cards # out of 1000 that just contain Burlap material from every set. I mean, I really think the highlights of the MM set (Maggie Smith, Jason Issacs, Emma Watson) are absolute jems. But, I can't imagine these HP sets maintaining collector viability (3 times a year) because of only a few keynote elite cards. I think the success of a series of cards should be judged as heavily on the "low" end cards as it does the "high" end. I guess I just don't want to see Artbox reach the point where they secure a few "big"/"billboard" name cards to highlight (re: sell) each set. Then just kind of fill in the blanks with as many generic insert cards as they can produce to fulfill insert ratios. Being a fan of Emma Watson (go ahead, check out my user name  ) I am thrilled with the opportunity to have another shot at pulling one of her autographs. But at the same time, even I am reaching the point where I may start groaning when I see "Emma Watson, HP Artbox Autograph part VII"
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« Reply #32 on: April 17, 2006, 04:07:27 AM » |
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I just noticed that potomac are taking orders at $77 (£43.92) a box for Memorable moments
so once you add shipping to the Uk and tax it is about £55 a box so my estimate of around £60 in the Uk may not be that far off
cause if you buy from Potomac i have always had to pay tax on shipments from them
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« Reply #33 on: April 17, 2006, 04:53:28 AM » |
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Edit ... ahh so not such a good seller to use if you need *cough*help*cough* with the documentation to ship stuff to the UK then ...  £55-£60 per box is too much to pay with the GOFu set due out soon IMHO and I doubt many collectors in the UK will be buying them at those kinds of prices ... shame too given the line-up of autos they have for the set.  I can say with certainty that there will be VERY brisk bidding on  once the cases have been cracked open - get your boxing gloves at the ready for some dirty fighting to get the cards you want! 
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« Reply #34 on: April 17, 2006, 05:55:16 PM » |
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It will be very interesting to see how collectors take to this set. People have been clamoring for a repeat of POA hysteria and nothing Artbox has done since then has come close. We know that MM production is limited and some of the autos will sell for a lot of money, but is that enough to carry the set? We need to see good costumes and props, too.
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« Reply #36 on: April 17, 2006, 06:11:08 PM » |
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Good to know that not everything coming into the UK is taxed to death Chris!  Chris used too many negatives in his sentance and confused us all  He must mean (with so many negatives) that he's always had to pay import tax. Last time I bought from Potomac I pre-paid my taxes to them to save the hassle and to get fast delivery  It will be very interesting to see how collectors take to this set. People have been clamoring for a repeat of POA hysteria and nothing Artbox has done since then has come close. We know that MM production is limited and some of the autos will sell for a lot of money, but is that enough to carry the set? We need to see good costumes and props, too. There will never be such hysteria again. If Artbox made a set limited to 200 cases it would not cause as much hysteria as PoA. Firstly when PoA came out - if you wanted anything that remotely resembled a decent HP card it had to be from that set. Now if you miss out on a set you can buy the other Hermione auto or some things from another set. It will never be repeated. Secondly they haven't done hotboxes again... I think hotboxes in this set would add the buzz that this set really needs, sure dealers are buying it, but if Artbox wants continuing loyalty from dealers I believe that they have to create secondary market 'buzz' about their sets, and a limited number of hotboxes of this set would certainly do that. What do you think?
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« Reply #37 on: April 17, 2006, 06:25:03 PM » |
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I'm hoping for some costumes we haven't seen yet: Quirrell (his turban, in particular), Sirius, Moody, Snape, and Hooch. I'm not sure what props haven't been done yet. This set should also be our first look at COS inserts.
I think hot boxes for this set would be great, as long as they doesn't contribute to the dud box problem. Artbbox did a good job nearly eliminating the problem by the time GOF came out and I'd hate to see them backtrack. The hot boxes should be unmarked, so everyone has a slim chance of getting one. Although, the rigid design of the MM box might make it very difficult to fit all of the inserts inside -- the regular boxes have a little bit of give to them.
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« Reply #38 on: April 17, 2006, 06:25:45 PM » |
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I have edited my post so it makes more sense  what i ment to say is i have always had to pay taxes on potomac cards coming into the UK as for Hot boxes if they said they would be in the Memorable Moments set then I think that people would be a bit more enthusiastic. But the truth is that if they actually just told us the details of the set we would be able to decide on how we are going to approach this product I love the idea of a maggie smith auto but if she signs just a few then will we see this rise to the price of harry auto. I hope so. if she just signed 100 cards that would be 1 in 4 cases which ain't that bad compared to pulling a triple in the POAU set. it was said that for POAU Dan Raddcliff only signed 65 so if she signed that amount then it is only 1 in 6 cases I am hoping that if the number of inserts per case are uped then if she was to sign 375 cards there would be one per case which would be fab for collectors or maybe they should do it so that you have a hot case. What i mean is that in a case you get a complete set of everything that would make this set worth buying by the case for collectors
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« Reply #39 on: April 17, 2006, 06:31:25 PM » |
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or maybe they should do it so that you have a hot case. What i mean is that in a case you get a complete set of everything that would make this set worth buying by the case for collectors
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