GOBLET OF FIRE UPDATE NEWS!!!

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[EmmasOneandOnly]

I doubt they are listening to us, their learning. Fianlly

[HPfamily]

a death eaters costume

How innovative 

OH YEAH!!  Another Death Eaters Costume!!  Original!! 
What else?!? Another Burnt Tent Material Prop? 

[beckham1]

Money is the only thing that talks in the business world.  I think we are wrong if we think that all (although I think some do) the manufacturers actually care about what the collector thinks or feels.  Now some of the big distributors can have some influence in the final product and print run, but I think they also want to maximize the money that comes in and if that means squezzing out a couple hundred extra cases (and likely POing a few people) that is a risk most are willing to take. 

I personally would rather have 5 props per case if I had to sacrifice getting a costume per box I would.  I personally like the props better and would like to have a better chance to pull one.  I really would rather pull a prop #'d to 250 than have less props per case with lower #'s on each that with my track record I will never pull.

[kbmum]

If you mean getting five props and five costumes per case, that's fine with me.  I prefer props, too.  As long as there are no dud boxes, though, I will be happy.

[beatles99]

I agree with all what has all been posted , but my turnoff with this new annoucement is I'd rather see more auto's of actors that haven't signed..as a collector of all HP I really don't need a 3rd Radcliffe auto or 3 Watsons, and Grints for that matter..I'm leaning towards Roz's thinking and would be a hell alot more excited if a Maggie Smith was in it.....GOF was somewhat of a turnoff not because of the props/or costumes but the signers in most parts were crap....2 of the actors (signers) where on screen for not more than 20 seconds...Where you have had actors with some major parts in all 4 movies not to be found...how many more Warwick Davis cards are they going to bloody release...I have 5 now

[EmmasOneandOnly]

Dan has only signed twice Sorry....

I agree, I only saw Cho twice and I think she had about 5 minutes of screen time and Fleur had 5 minutes longer screen time I'd really love a Professor Snape auto because I think Alan has done a great job with that character. I'd really like to see a Maggie as well.

[beatles99]

yea do the math if he signs again in GOFU this would be a third time,also with the multi auto's of some actors it really cheapens the investment aspect of the cards....I doubt very much if Radcliffe signs this time or even for the COS that his card will be reselling at $700-$900 as they did in the past..just look at the Gary Oldman card this time and the prices, and he was a limited card

[EmmasOneandOnly]

Oh right

Another death eaters costume, why does that run all over me

Whats some more props are they going to use and I doubt any of us will be able to find them let alone pull one Oh well, one can hope

[Roz]

yea do the math if he signs again in GOFU this would be a third time

You confused me a bit there, I guess you are counting twice for PoAU as there are 2 different cards - Gotcha

Alan Rickman is just the PERFECT Snape. He never delivers a line in a way that is in the slightest bit predictable or expected. He's definitely a man on the fence... is he good? Is he bad? Only the 7th book will tell. (I'm leaning towards Good Cop at the moment).

If not an auto, then a Snape costume is really a MUST for one of the new sets.

[kbmum]

Snape has some good scenes in COS, so my bet is that there will be a Snape costume (black swatch, yet again) and maybe an auto in the COS set.  I wouldn't be surprised to see a Draco auto for COS, either.

[beckham1]

I always wonder how much the people doing the sets really know about HP?  I am sure you have some that are knowledgable, but some probably don't know Harry from Hermione .  Do they really think like a collector thinks?  I think every time a set comes out we are happy with this or that card and disappointed that this or that card wasn't in it.

If you take the GOF props I doubt they actually look for them in the movie, that is really what we do as collectors, but most folks wouldn't.  I don't know just a thought for discussion.  I bet they get more info and ideas from this board than anywhere else.

[kbmum]

As collectors, we obsess over the little details and I'm not sure the manufacturer cares about that as much as we do.  For instance, there's the POAU Lupin shirt.  Artbox told me that the black variation was his "jacket."  I asked whether they meant his suit jacket/blazer or the robe he wears over it.  The production department didn't know.  It's things like that that drive me crazy.

[EmmasOneandOnly]

Maybe when they remake all the movies in 20 years and make another trading card set for each I'll get a job there and help them out for us

[beckham1]

I will say I think Inkworks and RA get the collectors frame of mind. On the other hand I am not so sure about Artbox and I really am sure Topps could care less what we think as collectors. 

Its the details that really show when a company thinks from the collectors perspective. For example in the Lost set they actually even list on the back of the PW cards which episode the costume came from.  How great is that.  I really wouldn't have thought much of it if they didn't include that, but I think it says a lot that they did.

[EmmasOneandOnly]

I really think we can expect props where we have to hunt them because if there are very rare props in this set then they didn't make a bunch to use over and over so maybe will get props that don't even appear in the movie. I cant remember any of the props they could possible use

[kbmum]

How about the Daily Prophet, letter from Sirius, the golden egg, some of the tiles from castle's roof when Harry was chased by the Horntail (provided they weren't all CGI), dragon skin/scales, gillyweed, leaves from the maze, and the slips of paper students used to enter the Triward Tournament?

[EmmasOneandOnly]

What leaves from the maze the maze wasn't made of leaves, it look like a rugged bush type plant. I'd like a Daily Prophet, the one Harry threw into the fire (and missed ). A roof tile...nah. I wouldn't want one of those. The golden egg would probably be #ed out of 10 or something I wouldn't want Gillyweed and I doubt anymore of that is left after 8 months. slips of paper wouldn't be bad. I'm dying for a Dragon Scale!!

[kbmum]

Well, leaves or some sort of plant material -- same thing.   The movie's prop department probably has the gillyweed, although it did end up in Daniel's mouth.   Of course, that could be a selling point for some people.

[EmmasOneandOnly]

What about a firebolt prop but how unlikely is that

[Sharon]

And we mustn't forget the Twins beards - I want that prop card soooo badly 

I believe that if the manufacturers care about our thoughts so little they are being very, very silly.  It only takes a small thing to keep us happy, like spotting your bit of table cloth in the divination classroom.  I am actually one of those that does believe Artbox reads this site (and others) and changes things where they can - the collation problem being a case in point.  I am certainly no great fan of Artbox (still no reply to my Email  ) but I reckon that as long as suggestions are made that they can take up, at no great financial cost to them, they will change things for the better.

I have to say I am not keen on another broomstick / wand prop.  They are so rotten hard to store.