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Author Topic: Karkaroff Costume Blue Variant  (Read 4882 times)
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« on: January 08, 2006, 05:45:35 AM »

Ui, that's a surprise. Way too expensive for me, but maybe for someone who likes unique cards.  Roll Eyes

http://cgi.ebay.com/Harry-Potter-GoF-Costume-C14-Igor-Karkaroff-Blue-RARE_W0QQitemZ6242900584QQcategoryZ73570QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2006, 05:51:00 AM »

The seller writes -

"One Of Only 2 Known Of Examples Of This Card.Be One Of Only 2 People To Have A COMPLETE Master Set!"

I know this argument has been made before here several times....but does anyone really believe that a varient such as this is necessary for a complete master set?  Considering the card, which can normally be purchased for under 15$, is being sold as a one of a kind at over 400$! Shocked Shocked Shocked
I can see why the seller is attempting to make a unique spin to sell the card, but for the collectors sake, it just seems like folly.

Also, can anyone figure out what part of his costume this swatch comes from?  Every part of his costume looks snow white to me Huh.
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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2006, 05:51:40 AM »

I have been chatting with Richard/Card_Vault about this - and we have no idea how there can be a blue bit of the costume  Huh it looks all white, I think he's been investigating with Artbox. But it's certainly an interesting find Smiley

The only 2 I have heard of were both in UK boxes, just a lucky co-incidence I guess.
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2006, 05:53:42 AM »

Could it possibly be his belt?  Perhaps Artbox aquired the entire costume and then used as much of it as possible?

But then I would assume that more blue variants would be popping up.
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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2006, 05:54:02 AM »

I just saw this one too!!  Shocked
I tried for the last one on  Ebay! but was outbid!!
He's offering this one for almost 3 times what the other sold for!!  Shocked
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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2006, 05:55:14 AM »

Didn't you see the the deleted scene which will be on the DVD? When Karkaroff steals a dark blue Beauxbatons Dress and puts it under his white costume.  Roll Eyes

Okay, i have no idea where it's from.  Grin  Grin   Cool
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« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2006, 05:56:19 AM »

 ROFL! ROFL! ROFL! ROFL! ROFL! ROFL! ROFL!
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« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2006, 06:01:40 AM »

I can see why the seller is attempting to make a unique spin to sell the card, but for the collectors sake, it just seems like folly.

You can't take it seriously of course. I was laughing when reading this, a nice idea.  Grin  Everyone knows what a Master Set is. You don't need every variation for it, not with the props (of course not) and not with the costumes. In my opinion a nice and funny joke, nothing more. Only a fool would think "Hey, i need it so badly for my Master Set". But it's unique and we know a few people who love unique cards. Me included.  Cool
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« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2006, 06:04:24 AM »

I always thought that it was a mistake from Artbox, but thats only my opinion.
I think it looks like a Beauxbatons costume! Undecided

But it's unique and we know a few people who love unique cards. Me included. Cool

*raises hand*  I may fall in that category!!  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2006, 06:06:17 AM »

Blimey, that's a heck of a lot of money for that card!! Shocked

Loved the idea of Karkaroff stealing a dark blue Beauxbatons dress to wear under his white costume!!! ROFL! ROFL! ROFL!

Yeah ... reckon I'm another who likes unique cards too Jackie! Wink Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2006, 06:49:44 AM »

Jackie I totally agree, IMO it was another costume placed in error.  With a card #'d that high I don't think it would even be possible (again IMO) to not see more turn up if it wasn't a mistake.  Even with the Krum costume that had much debate over the brown swatch variant we have probably seen at least 50 and that is a lower #'d card.
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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2006, 07:48:34 AM »

Probably is just a mistake on artboxes card (though, with his white overcoat thingy being ankle length, the character could be wearing blue pants, and we'd never know...)
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« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2006, 09:58:36 AM »

I also agree !!!! This just looks like an Artbox error card and should be treated as so..anybody saving Artbox error cards for a side hobby should jump on this one pronto !!!!...but $400 what is he thinking Huh?? I know one hell of a huge profit
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« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2006, 12:06:30 PM »

Do I detect GREEN dragons? It is obvious from the picture on the card that the belt is BLUE. Or am I color blind?
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« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2006, 03:14:38 PM »

Do I detect GREEN dragons? It is obvious from the picture on the card that the belt is BLUE. Or am I color blind?

John I am assuming you are kidding Wink  Right Undecided  If not one of us is color blind.
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« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2006, 09:06:27 PM »

To be fair I think it's nice to see something *really* different out there. Lots of things we call 'variants' these days are not so special, think back to the Fizzing Whizbees PoAU variants, they were so few and far between that only around 3 came on ebay within 3 months of release. They were really special.
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« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2006, 12:34:15 AM »

Well if its a legit variant then I will agree with you Roz, but if it is a mistake on the costume inserted in the card I think that changes things. Especially considering the description.  I don't see anywhere that states it could be an error card. 

So depending on your point of view it is either creative advertising or possilby misleading a buyer.  We are all "fairly" knowledgable with HP sets and thanks to the price guide ballpark value of a card.  I just hope this is someone who thought about this and decided they felt it qualified as a rare card or variant for a master set, and didn't buy based on the listing description feeling it was FOR SURE a Karkaroff costume with only a couple worldwide.  If the later was the case is that really fair for them?
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« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2006, 01:20:53 AM »

Someone should ask Artbox.
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« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2006, 01:30:49 AM »

I have been chatting with Richard/Card_Vault about this - and we have no idea how there can be a blue bit of the costume  Huh it looks all white, I think he's been investigating with Artbox. But it's certainly an interesting find Smiley

The only 2 I have heard of were both in UK boxes, just a lucky co-incidence I guess.

Sara, Here is Roz's post earlier in the thread.  Which is why I posed the previous question.  If he has not had an answer from Artbox confirming it is a variant and not a mistake.  So what is the responsibility of an individual seller when they are listing a card like this?  I am sure he knows that it may be a mistake on the card.  I wouldn't have any problem with it if he would have stated in the auction it MIGHT not be a Karkaroff costume at all.

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