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Author Topic: The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe  (Read 5522 times)
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« Reply #40 on: January 05, 2006, 12:08:38 AM »

How long are the Narnia books?  A couple hundred pages?  If so, it would be nice to read one in between the other long books I am reading.  Sort of as a refresher period. LOL.
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« Reply #41 on: January 05, 2006, 01:01:21 AM »

Here's a review that I found very interesting... particularly the discussion re. the four way *battle* between C.S Lewis, Tolkien, JK Rowling and Phillip Pullman:

The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe

The most striking thing about the dark forces in C.S. Lewis's The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe is that they're not dark at all. Their natural habitat is a greeting-card landscape of powdery snow and glittering ice. And presiding over it all is Jadis, the White Witch, one of the most balefully beautiful femme fatales in the world of myth and fairytale.

It is hardly surprising that Lewis, a prominent figure in the fusty male circles formed by Oxford's literary dons of the 1930s and '40s, should have visualised the Devil as a woman. If he'd still been around, however, he may have found it disconcerting to see her brought to life with the scene-stealing glamour that Tilda Swinton brings to the part.

With her height, her hauteur and her translucent paleness, Swinton has a face and figure on which almost any message can be written as long as it has a kernel of seriousness. It is unlikely she'd be up to playing dizzy dames with Goldie Hawn or doing a duet with Bette Midler, but ice queens don't come any classier. And this presents a problem for Narnia's good deity, Aslan, the Great Lion.

Big he may be, but in comparison, he looks pretty creaky. Although he has the velvety resonance of Liam Neeson's voice working for him, he never quite manages to do a King Kong and transcend the fact that he was born of a marriage between computer and puppet maker.

Fortunately, everybody else measures up. It's easy to see why Disney chose to start with The Witch and the Wardrobe. It has all the lineaments of the classical fairytale, being both fresh and familiar. In the adventures of the four Pevensie children, who open an old wardrobe one day to find that it leads to a magical world, there are echoes of Lewis Carroll's Alice, Frances Hodgson Burnett's Secret Garden and E.Nesbit's Bastable books. But Lewis puts his own stamp on the story by peopling it with creatures drawn from his preoccupation with pagan and Christian mythology.

He also makes it a place where the children can influence events. In the real world, the Pevensies - Peter (William Moseley), Susan (Anna Popplewell), Edmund (Skandar Keynes) and Lucy (Georgie Henley) - are helpless onlookers. It's World War II and they have been evacuated from London to a spooky old house in the country, where all they can do is sit tight and stay safe. But in Narnia, the war between good and evil is one in which they find themselves playing key roles.

The film's New Zealand-born director, Andrew Adamson, who made such gleeful work of spoofing both Disney and the fairytale tradition in the Shrek films, has no trouble playing it straight this time. The film was shot mainly in New Zealand with the British designer Roger Ford and the Australian cinematographer Donald McAlpine bringing a sinister beauty to the wintry Narnia landscapes. And the best animators, model-makers and special-effects people in the business have successfully delivered Lewis's battalions of centaurs, minotaurs, minoboars, cyclops, ghouls and spectres to the screen.

There's charm without cuteness, too, in Ray Winstone's and Dawn French's voicing of the friendly Beavers and James McAvoy's brave faun, Mr Tumnus.

The only real touch of Disneyfication lies in the fact that not a drop of blood is spilled. People and animals fight and die, but they do not bleed.

The story is a transparently Christian allegory - something that caused Lewis's friend J.R.R. Tolkien to dislike it intensely. He resented Narnia's popularity, deplored the haste with which the books had been put together and believed that Lewis had compromised their effectiveness in emphasising their religious subtext.

Today's evangelical right sees the overtness of their Christian message as a good thing. The White Witch and her minions are being touted as an eloquent reply to J.K. Rowling's effrontery in pitching the idea in Harry Potter that there might be benign witches and wizards. And Narnia is part-financed by Walden Media, the production company set up by Republican billionaire Philip Anschutz to invest in films reflecting so-called family values.

So the politics of Fantasyland is a hot issue - one that is bound to become even hotter when Philip Pullman's His Dark Materials trilogy comes to the screen. Pullman, who won Britain's Whitbread award with his final volume in the series, is somebody else who cherishes a hearty dislike of Narnia's religious aspects. An atheist, he is against Christian proselytisers of any sort, and the complex plot of His Dark Materials is designed as a vigorous attack on organised religion.

For film-goers, all of this can only be good news. That's if the quality of the adaptations holds up. Regardless of what they have said about one another, Lewis, Tolkien, Rowling and Pullman have written magnificent stories, all displaying one overriding virtue - a reverence for the power of the imagination.

Thank you for that very interesting article.  I'm rather enjoying this thread.   I'm not a religious person by anyone's definition, but I did see the religious undertones in NARNIA. That said, I LOVED the movie, and enjoyed the books as a child.  I don't remember them very well, though. I suppose that comes with being over 35  Grin 

As for SOME evangelicals not liking Harry Potter...I have a niece and a nephew in who live in the southwestern US and their grandmother and uncle on their father's side definitely do not approve of their reading or watching Harry Potter. The same is true with some of their friends.  Obviously, that's not true of every church-going person though.

I think the important thing to remember with Harry Potter and Narnia is that it gets children to READ, rather than sit in front of the TV watching garbage and playing video games. Smiley


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« Reply #42 on: January 05, 2006, 04:34:53 AM »

Not just kids, but adults too!  I used to read when I was younger, but as I got older, I just didn't feel I had the time for it.  I watched the first two HP movies, and when the fifth book came out, I heard a big character died, so I ran out and got the books because I just couldn't wait to find out who it was (I also read the first two books).  After that, I was hooked. I now read the Charmed books from the TV show, and branched off to Stephen King, and now, Narnia.  It was a matter of finding something I enjoyed to make me realize that reading realy is an amazing thing and it can bring you to another place if only for a little while.

So I thank those authors for writing amazing stories that get children and adults reading.

And, thanks to JK Rowling, I got so addicted to HP and managed to find many new friends with the same tastes.  If it wasn't for Harry Potter, I would have never found this forum and all these wonderful people.
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« Reply #43 on: January 05, 2006, 05:28:48 AM »

How long are the Narnia books? A couple hundred pages? If so, it would be nice to read one in between the other long books I am reading. Sort of as a refresher period. LOL.

The books range anywhere from around 100 pages to a little under 200.  Needless to say the type is large (at least in the set that I have) and there are dozens of beautiful pictures which shortens the length considerably. 

I found that with haste, I could finish any book in or under 3 hours.  However, often times, you may find yourself going back and rereading certain passages just to catch all the magic, so it may take longer the first time through.

But all 7 books are extremely quick, light reading and would certain act as a "refresher period" between some of your 'heavier' tomes (by this I mean Stephen King, of whom I am also a big fan!).
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« Reply #44 on: January 05, 2006, 05:31:58 AM »

Harping back to the Narnia movie for a bit. The servant to the White Witch - the dwarfey type guy. Is it just me or is he Frodo's body double from LOTR? If you have watched the 4 disc sets you'll know this guy has a distinctive thick accent and apparently ordered Viggo around like noboby's business... I'll check that out.
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« Reply #45 on: January 05, 2006, 05:33:38 AM »

Yep - look at the cast list here

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0787449/

click on

Kiran Shah    ....    Ginarrbrik

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http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0787449/

Which (oddly enough) doesn't mention his Narnia role... ho hum Roll Eyes
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« Reply #46 on: January 05, 2006, 05:50:29 AM »

Yea, I mentioned it a few days ago on this thread.  Looking it up on IMDB, which I have found to be for the most part-reliable, it was exactly the same actor that was Elijah Wood's standin.  Good eyes!
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« Reply #47 on: January 05, 2006, 06:48:24 AM »

I noticed that right away, but I watched the FOTR EE a zillion times. I loved the bits where I saw him ordering VVVvviggo around. A hoot! ROFL!
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« Reply #48 on: January 05, 2006, 10:55:09 PM »

Now I can't wait to get the Narnia books and see where the story goes.  Time to search  Ebay!
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« Reply #49 on: January 06, 2006, 07:32:51 AM »

You can get all of them in one softcover book at Wal-Mart for about $15.  Grin
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« Reply #50 on: January 15, 2006, 12:15:45 PM »

Finally saw the film a few nights ago, and loved it! Was never really a fan of the book; I think it was read to us at school (years ago), but I never quite "got it". The movie however, was fantastic. As I write this Im actually listening to the soundtrack, which I can also recommend...but, I did already like Imogen Heap and Alanis Morissette.
The young girl in the movie (Lucy) was great too...she did quite a good job of making me cry, and more than once too.
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