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« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2005, 10:41:10 PM »

"I am just not willing to shell out $30-$50 for a box when all I have to look forward to is a sketch card (no offence Cynthia!!!!!) "

Hehe - and here I sit contemplating how many CASES of this product I want for my PERSONAL collection. Autos be damned - I have all the ones I could want and prop cards from material used in the making of? - Well, that'll be in the retail boxes, but SKETCH CARDS !!! I can hardly contain my drooll...

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« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2005, 06:42:23 PM »

Does anyone know who the artists are for the sketchcards besides CC and Martinez?  If you know what is your opinion of the quality of their work?  Thanks.
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« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2005, 10:27:22 PM »

THE LORD OF THE RINGS – EVOLUTION

SKETCH ARTIST LIST

Allison Sohn
Amy Pronovost
Brent Woodside
Brian Rood
Cat Staggs
Chris Eliopoulos
Christian Dalla Vecchia
Cynthia Cummens
Dan Norton
Dan Parsons
Dave Dorman
David Rabbitte
Davide Fabbri
Dennis Budd
Gabriel Hernandez
Grant Gould
Howard Shum
Jake Myler
James Hodgkins
Jan Duursema
Jeff Chandler
Jeff Zapata
Joe Corroney
John McCrea
Joseph Booth
Juan Carlos Ramos
Justin Chung
Mary Mitchell
Matt Busch
Michael Duron
Mike Lilly
Monte Moore
Otis Frampton
Paul Gutierrez
Rafael Kayanan
Randy Martinez
Ray Dillon
Renae De Liz
Rich Molinelli
Robert Teranishi
Russ Walks
Ryan Benjamin
Sarah Wilkinson
Scott Erwert
Thomas Hodges
Tom Mandrake
William O'Neil

A great majority of those did work on the Star Wars Heritage and CLone Wars sets, but a great many are new also. I could sit here and write a dissertation on their work, but art is truly individual and personal that what I like you may not.
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« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2005, 11:50:36 PM »

Oh my! What a list!! Shocked
Thanks for posting it Joanna - looks like some of my fave Star Wars artists will be contributing and I'll be VERY interested to see how they interpret the characters for this set!! Wink Grin
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« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2005, 06:02:08 PM »

Thank you Joanna for the artist list.  I only recognize Cynthia Cummens name.  Martinez is familiar only from people posting here how bad his art work is.  I just knew that John Howe and Alan Lee would not be among the artists because either Topps would not pay them enough or they did not want to be involved.   Sad

I like artwork about the characters to look as realistic as possible so based on that who on this list do you recommend?   
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« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2005, 07:23:19 PM »

Alan lee told our jas that he would love to be involved.

now either lee or Howe will do you a lovely sketch when you meet either of them, and Howe has said to me that he gets lots of emails from kids wanting to commission art - but of course it would take many thousands to have either of them do you a painting, but he'll send back little sketches to some of the kids when he can.

I guess topps either didn't contact them or offered them so little money that it was an insult, and since we've heard rumours that they offered a WETA guy $0.75 a sketch i think that for Topps even Martinez's work is good value for money (for topps, not for the collector at $60+ a box) Tongue
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« Reply #26 on: December 02, 2005, 08:38:13 PM »

I would really like to know how much people get paid to sign/sketch. It is one of those things I always wondered, but know I will never find out.
Like how much did they pay Samuel L. Jackson for each card he signed, or the three Potter stars....how much did they get paid per card?
I know RIttenhouse fianlly got Ursula Andress to sign for a Bond set....how much did that cost? (even though I am looking forward more to the two new costume cards!)

If that rumor is true, that is just absurd. $0.75 a sketch? You are telling me if he does 400 sketches they guy will only get $300? That just isn't even worth the time. Even if a sketch takes you 1 minute to do (and some of them look like the take MUCH MUCH longer) and you do 400 sketches, that will take roughly 6.5 hours and, which means you are only getting paid $46 an hour to make them roughly $25 (after all costs) per box with one sketch per box giving them a $10,000 profit. Did you get all that? Because even I reread it and was confused lol. Maybe SketchQueen (I believe I remember that you work for Rittenhouse) would be willing to divulge not any of the big secrets, but possibly a rough cost to make a product? Like how much printing and packaging and all that costs?
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« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2005, 09:11:49 PM »


I like artwork about the characters to look as realistic as possible so based on that who on this list do you recommend?   

The follwing artists are great for realism

Allison Sohn
Brent Woodside
Brian Rood
Cat Staggs
Cynthia Cummens
Dan Parsons
Dave Dorman
David Rabbitte
Jake Myler
James Hodgkins
Joe Corroney
Mary Mitchell
Mike Lilly
Monte Moore
Ray Dillon
Robert Teranishi
Russ Walks
Ryan Benjamin
Sarah Wilkinson


I may have missed a few out.... but couple of these new artists have posted on NSU Cardtalk... and posted links to some of their warm up stuff.... the other i picked simply from seeing previous sketch cards..... i could be wrong though.. just my own opnion!! Smiley
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« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2005, 09:21:41 PM »

I would disagree with some of those, respectfully Smiley Art is what moves you - my absolute best advice is to, upon release, go to eBay, go to shows, and see what you like, make a respectable offer, bid what you think is reasonable, and go about it that way.

I once said that, for a specific set, I only wanted sketches by Artist X - and found myself buying cards by Artists A, B and C because even though they weren't my favorites (at the time), the artwork, for lack of a better word, spoke to me. I still find myself looking for Artist X sketches, but am no longer constrained by my once limited thinking...
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« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2005, 12:44:32 AM »

I once said that, for a specific set, I only wanted sketches by Artist X - and found myself buying cards by Artists A, B and C because even though they weren't my favorites (at the time), the artwork, for lack of a better word, spoke to me. I still find myself looking for Artist X sketches, but am no longer constrained by my once limited thinking...

Ditto.  I saw some stuff I liked, ONLY liked that, then saw something else that "spoke" to me and I've been doomed ever since...  Art is subjective - good art is even more subjective.

And I've heard figures for previous sets that artists are paid very very little (think the highest I heard was a few dollars).  I'm surprised we get any kind of quality from that (though the artists may be on a sliding scale - I have no clue)...
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« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2005, 01:51:52 AM »

They could pay me a million dollars per card and I still wouldn't be able to draw anything recognizeable, so, yes, the quality we see is impressive and, in the case of Topps, it's the quantity as well. My all-time favorite set is Marvel Creator's Collection 1998 with it's still-unprecedented number of artists contributing, but I really think  Topps is trying to (forgive the pun) top that record as well Smiley
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« Reply #31 on: December 03, 2005, 06:01:58 PM »

Thank you RupT and Sketchqueen for your thoughts on the artists and artwork in general.  I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder and I will certainly look at what is available on ebay when the time comes. 

Roz:

It would have been outstanding if Topps had Alan Lee and John Howe on board even to produce a small amount of work that some lucky people would have found opening a pack - imagine if it was you!   Smiley   
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« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2006, 04:29:28 AM »

Can anyone tell me if the P1 promo is the only promo for this set?  I can't find promos listed on Jeff Allenders site and no info on Topps site.  If it's only the P1 for this set, does anyone have an extra to sell?
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« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2006, 05:05:35 AM »

Kelly,
It is the only promo from Comic Con

Unfortunatly I do not have any, sorry!
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« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2006, 05:29:41 AM »

Kelly - you might like to try this seller:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6266615194&ru=http://search.ebay.com:80/6266615194_W0QQfromZR40QQfviZ1

They ship worldwide so you should be able to get hold of one or more of the P1 promos! Wink
I've no idea if any more promos were done for this set or not - maybe someone else has more info on that?

Here's another who might be cheaper for you as they're a bit nearer:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Topps-LORD-OF-THE-RINGS-EVOLUTION-P1-Frodo-Promo-Card_W0QQitemZ6262596678QQcategoryZ60246QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2006, 06:14:29 AM »

Can anyone tell me if the P1 promo is the only promo for this set?  I can't find promos listed on Jeff Allenders site and no info on Topps site.  If it's only the P1 for this set, does anyone have an extra to sell?

P1 is the only promo I have for this set and I also have a spare one. Wink  Send me a PM Kelly and I'm sure I can help you out. Cheesy
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« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2006, 10:01:37 AM »

Pm on the way!  Grin
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« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2006, 10:58:54 PM »

Don't forget the sell sheet. Thats also really nice.
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« Reply #38 on: April 01, 2006, 12:03:53 AM »

Yep!  Can't forget the sale sheet.  Grin  Topps didn't have a binder for this set did they?
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« Reply #39 on: April 01, 2006, 12:12:21 AM »

I doubt they did Kelly - after all, they didn't do one for the Trilogy set! Undecided
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