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« on: May 09, 2005, 03:13:36 AM »

60 years today. I think we are very lucky to be born when we were and we should be greatful Smiley

(No disrespect ment to our dear German Yaks, I don't blame Germany only Hitler Hopping Mad
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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2005, 04:08:04 AM »

Amen!  It is a point in time we should all remember and honor all those who served to liberate the world from tyranny.   Praying
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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2005, 04:22:42 AM »

Both Grandfathers and a Great Aunt of mine served during that time.  Definately the greatest generation.
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2005, 04:41:59 AM »

Aye indeed. I was at a celebration of VE day today with an Aircraft show of planes used on both sides throught the war, and I was standing next to and chatting to some German folk Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2005, 06:26:36 AM »

Mark & Roz:

Thanks for going to the Duxford Airshow today and for sending all those great photos.  I replied back to Mark and gave comments on the 38 photos identifying the aircraft he sent me to view.  Were the German folks you spoke with visiting the show or did they serve during the war?  The weather looked at times great and at other times miserable.  Did it rain much at the show?
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2005, 08:01:15 AM »

I think people should also remember all the people that where in concentration camps.
The kids great grandmother was in one she lost her husband and children only her
daughter( my ex mother in law ) and Herself survived
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2005, 04:27:44 PM »

Absoloutely McG! Sitting here I can't even contemplate wanting to live on once I had lost such people. Your Grandmother must have had tremendous courage.

Mark and I went to the biggest celebration of VE day in the UK (apparently) - an Airshow at the Imperial War Museum at Duxford:

with Ed (savage727's) help we have been able to put some "names to faces" Wink

The weather was really rough - heavy winds and occasional bouts of rain making the sky dark and look like this :



Here is the helicopter we renamed the Gandalf for the day Wink because they were saying it was a Merlin. I think that must be some variety of Super Puma Helicopter?? I'm a bit confused there Wink



There's always someone standing in front of you with a baseball cap on... or a big conk... such as this oversized fellow Wink



At least Concord had a good view Tongue



Inside the Concord prototype! Looks really complicated to me  Undecided



Battle of Britain Memorial Flight.  Lancaster Heavy Bomber flanked on the right by a Hurricane Fighter and on the left by a Spitfire Fighter.  The Hurricane & Spitfire were the 2 British Aircraft that won the Battle of Britain in 1940.  Great fighters. It seems that there are only two Lancaster Bombers stil flying so they have to keep them nice Tongue and not fly them in adverse weather (ahem) but it was the 60th Anniversary Wink so they had to brave it!l



A two seat trainer Spitfire Fighter.




From left to right - L4 Piper Cub Artillery Spotter Aircraft, German Storch Utility plane, Clipped Wing Version of a British Spitfire Fighter.




Grumman Wildcat fighter in British Markings.  This was the main fighter the US Navy and Marine Corps pilots flew in the Pacific for the first half of the war.  British pilots flew this plane from carriers in the Atlantic and Mediterranean.



PBY Catalina Amphibious aircraft used by us both all over the world for Scouting, Ant- Submarine Warfare, Search & Rescue, and Night Attack.  Great aircraft.



Photo of Ferocious Frankie a P-51D Mustang Fighter.  These types of fighter aircraft were based at Duxford when it was given to the Americans as a base.



Photo of a P-47D Thunderbolt Fighter.  Along with the P-51 Mustang these were the two major fighter aircraft that Americans flew out of England to escort the bombers.



Photos of a P-51 Mustang in filight, a P-47 Thunderbolt in fight, another of a P-51 Mustang in flight.








Formation flight of P-51 Mustang and P-47 Thunderbolt Fighters.   The black & white stripes on the aircraft indicate they were used for the D-Day landings and were so marked to show that they were friendly aircraft to ship and ground gunners during the invasion.  British aircraft were also marked this way as well.





(Foreground) Trainer Spitfire Fighter with a F4U-1D Corsair Fighter landing behind it(background).  This fighter was used by our Navy and Marine Corps pilots in the Pacific for the last half of the war and also used by British Navy Pilots in the Pacific.  Ed's  Mother worked at the Chance Vought Aircraft Company in Stratford, Connecticut durin the war riviting the wings together of these great fighters.  Who knows she may have worked on this one?




 P-47 Thunderbolt and F4U Corsair flying past 3 Spitfires on the flight line!





Russian Yak fighter taxing out.  This is actually the 2 seat trainer version of the fighter.

(NB... if the forum ever buys a plane Wink it must be a Yak one Cheesy)







Fercious Frankie P-51 Fighter taxing out past several British Army helicopters - The Lynx and Super Puma.



Photo of Big Beautiful Doll P-51 Mustang Fighter taxing out.  The American fighter and bomber pilots named their planes and had them painted up usually of girlfriends or wives.






F-80 Shooting Star in flight.  It was one of the first American Jet Fighters and it came out just as the war ended.  It was used in the Korean War mainly as a ground attack plane.




British Spitfire Fighter warming up for take off.



4 British Spitfires flying in formation






American B-17G Heavy Bomber.  Earlier versions of the B-17 that flew from England did not have the chin turret of machine guns.  This was introduced because the German fighters would make head on passes at the bombers which did not have many fordward firing guns in the nose.



British Hurricane Fighter taxing out to the flight line.



British Navy Sea Fury



P-47 Thunderbolt fighter

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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2005, 05:33:09 PM »

Hi Roz:

Great job by you and Mark with the photos!   Smiley  You must tell everyone about your Spitfire simulator dogfight against a German Messerschmidt!!  Did any current American jets stationed in England make any flybys?
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2005, 08:36:40 PM »

Sorry, but whats VE Day?
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2005, 08:41:06 PM »

Victory in Europe. The second world war, 60 years ago yesterday Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2005, 08:45:24 PM »

Oh, ok. Not really into history so I dont know much Tongue
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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2005, 08:50:00 PM »

Well this is rather an important bit of history, and we are lucky enough to still have many folks alive who we can ask about it - although time is running out as Dawn says - 60 years yesterday the first part ended (VJ comes later in the summer) - so really anyone with any interesting info about the war is at least 80 years old now - and to be on the safe side 85!

Now that's getting above the average life span of a human being!
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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2005, 09:01:05 PM »

Thats great to know people are still alive to tell others about. Is it a big part of British History?
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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2005, 01:30:15 AM »

Hello EmmasOneandOnly:

I see by your profile that you are 14 so you probably are a freshman in high school.  I would be interested to hear if your teachers taught anything to you and your classmates on World War II.   To answer your question yes it most certainly was a big part if not the biggest in British history as well as pretty much the rest of the world.   

England was in the war from day one which began in 1939.  We did not start fighting until the Japanese attacked us at Pearl Harbor in 1941.  The United States and its Allies were heavily involved fighting in Europe, the Mediterranean, and all over the Pacific during World War II.  VE Day stands for Victory in Europe and VJ Day stands for Victory over Japan.  This year marks the 60th Anniversary of the end of World War II which is not all that long ago. 
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« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2005, 02:08:56 PM »

It is a big piece of British history, but you have to remember that Biritish history, and indeed European history as a whole is very long indeed.

WW2 is so highlighted because it's so recent, and because (we hope) it will be the last battle faught in the way that it was, and because people still live that remember it.

It is not called a "world war" through some delusion of gradeur on our part, it affected literally the whole world.
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« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2005, 02:25:23 PM »

and that there are many survivors of this war still around.
if you want to know more about it i would suggest you read a book called
The Diary of Anne Frank
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« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2005, 02:30:14 PM »

That's a good idea. I can't remember how old she was when she first started writing it - perhaps 8?? It's too long since I read it to be sure, but it puts the war totally into perspective - she was a young Jewish girl living in a city in the Netherlands (Holland) called Amserdam.

A good read!
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« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2005, 02:59:16 PM »

i thought so it showed the war for her eyes  and the people around her.

did you get my pm roz ??
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« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2005, 10:01:03 PM »

Great pics, Roz!  My husband will love to see them.  He's a pilot-business jets and helocopters.
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« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2005, 02:20:22 AM »

Thank you for the pic Roz and Mark
My hubby and father in law father  loved looking at them
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