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Harry Potter => Prisoner of Azkaban Artbox Update set => : sonarghost September 01, 2004, 09:21:51 PM



: Potomac are now sold out of preorders!!
: sonarghost September 01, 2004, 09:21:51 PM
I have been really debating wether to buy any update card cases but my decision was made easy for me when I called up and told they are no longer taking preorders....

I guess I'll just stick to my plan of buying the cards I want individually (can't wait to get buckbeak!!) ;)


: Re:potamic is now sold out of preorders!!
: Roz September 01, 2004, 09:23:15 PM
Eargh - that's very bad news indeed Sonarghost. I really would have thought that it would have been better to buy boxes. It certainly was for the last set and all indications seem to show that it will be for this set. Perhaps there are other resellers still with stock??


: Re:potamic is now sold out of preorders!!
: ferdinand_the_yak September 01, 2004, 09:29:22 PM
I wonder when/if Cards inc will do it - they have not done so yet on the collectorzone site - but they have done so for LOTR trilogy which is released about the same time ???

Maybe they think that they will lose profit on cheaper preorders and are holding onto boxes to sell when popularity soars after insert details are released (most likely when the set is released)?

Has MPC/gimli sold out on pre-orders?


: Re:potamic is now sold out of preorders!!
: Roz September 01, 2004, 09:33:39 PM
I think that MPC has sold out! But I think Gimli is waiting to see what boxes he actually receives before pre-selling!

Olly will also be selling boxes too - so I don't think it will be impossible to get boxes, it's just that people will have to have paid UK duty, shipping fees so out of the UK potomac was a good option.

I wonder if sonarghost will mind if I edit his title so that it reads Potomac  :-\


: Re:potamic is now sold out of preorders!!
: kbmum September 01, 2004, 09:41:56 PM
I just checked the Georgetown Card Exchange site, and they are still taking preorders for boxes and cases.  The shipping cost is reasonable, at least in the US.  


: Re:potamic is now sold out of preorders!!
: ztaylork September 02, 2004, 12:58:48 AM
Glad I got my order in early.  With them stop preselling over two months before the scheduled release (which has got to be a record) it brings up the question of are these boxes going to get allocated, and am i only going to get 1 case instead of 2?  I would prefer Artbox to produce a quality product loaded with inserts than to stretch it out like topps does and make a crap product with only 1 insert in every box.  I was among the many who got a dud box (5 in total) in my 3 cases that I opened, but I got more boxes than that which had 3 inserts in it, and one box that was very HOT, and had all the inserts.  So in conclusion, I would prefer to have 1 case of good product like the last set, than to have 2 cases of crap product like topps puts out.  On a side not I like that I can knock on topps here, because I really don't like them.  Long live Artbox!!!!   Learn from the mistakes of topps!!!!

ztaylork


: Re:potamic is now sold out of preorders!!
: beckham1 September 02, 2004, 01:10:35 AM
I wish you would have posted that last week, my local card dealer emailed me with a price of $525 a case (which was about $50 less than Potomac) so I couldn't resist and had to get 2 more cases from him!

He picks them up from the distribution center the day of release so I might be one of the first to get some boxes!!!!


: Re:potamic is now sold out of preorders!!
: Roz September 02, 2004, 01:35:58 AM
Well you'll have to dust off your scanner and get posting lots of pics on that day!

:)



: Re:potamic is now sold out of preorders!!
: frd September 02, 2004, 01:46:25 AM
Hey Beckham,
   Modesto, eh? You are about 450 miles north of where I live. Any chance your "local card dealer" can take an extra order for a case? Thanks,
frd


: Re:potamic is now sold out of preorders!!
: beckham1 September 02, 2004, 03:18:21 AM
I can email him and check, but my guess will be that he won't extend that price since his preorder had to be in on Friday of last week.  I can check, he can be a little flakey sometimes in responding to emails also!

In fact he likes to wait til they come out and see where it goes from there he is still sitting on a case of HP POA as of a month ago (don't know if he still is).


: Re:potamic is now sold out of preorders!!
: inkjet September 02, 2004, 06:18:58 AM
How much duty do you guys pay on the imports from Potomac/Georgetown? Is there any good source for boxes in the UK?

Thx


: Re:potamic is now sold out of preorders!!
: mcgonagall September 02, 2004, 07:56:08 AM
I could ask if there where any good source for poa update boxes in Australia but as FTY and I know there are none . I am happy that i got my order in but in the next week or so might see if i can order another box from somewhere ( i think my chances will not be good )



: Re:potamic is now sold out of preorders!!
: ztaylork September 02, 2004, 08:35:21 AM
Two months before the set is released, and already a sense of frantic racing to get enough of the product and make sure we are not victims of allocation.  This set is going to once again be golden.  :)

ztaylork


: Re:potamic is now sold out of preorders!!
: kbmum September 02, 2004, 08:43:30 AM
How does allocation normally work?  Does it mean that the retailer sends out complete orders until no boxes are left and the last people to order get nothing, or does the retailer reduce the number of boxes each buyer gets, so that all of the buyers get part of their orders?


: Re:potamic is now sold out of preorders!!
: beckham1 September 02, 2004, 08:53:14 AM
Also, I think most don't only set aside a certain portion for preorder (especially if they think it will go up in value).   I don't think most dealers are going to sell their whole product order for $55 a box if they think  they might be able to get twice as much later!

It is easier for them to make the margin that way (of course I could be wrong, but that is my guess).  

Also I think you will see the ebay sellers put there product up 30 days or less before the release date.   I auctually saw a presell box get order a while back for I think $120 US.   That is just nuts, there will be more than ample supply on ebay when the product comes out.  Also check out the current presell boxes (those people are just wrong for trying to get some poor fool to panic and buy a presell for $100, $150 etc.)  Dont do it!


: Re:potamic is now sold out of preorders!!
: soccerfanatic September 02, 2004, 09:28:34 AM
Argh! I was gonna buy from potomac but waited to see how the LOTR Trilogy set was gonna be. Now that I know I won't be buying boxes of those, I missed out from potomac in the process!

Does anyone know where I can still find any HP update boxes at a decent price? Thanks!


: Re:potamic is now sold out of preorders!!
: ferdinand_the_yak September 02, 2004, 09:35:49 AM
A previous post said Georgetown card exchange was still doing some good prices - I think it was about $70 a box when I last checked.

Good luck!


: Re:potamic is now sold out of preorders!!
: Roz September 02, 2004, 01:00:25 PM
Hi and welcome inkjet.

As you can see from this post as we are getting nearer to the release (just 8 weeks or so now) dealers are selling out of their pre-release quota and I can be sure that upon release the prices will be higher.

There are lots of forum members in the UK here and let me use Chris as an example; he has always bought from potomac before but this time he is buying ALL his cases from Cards Inc. (so take it from that that people ALWAYS get import taxed when they get goods from potomac).

In the UK MPC (a member of this forum and MPC_Ltd on ebay) has sold out of pre-orders. I don't know whether Chris/ Gimli on this forum is taking pre-orders (I don't think he is) but I am sure he'll put your name on a list if you like for when he knows what stock he has received.

And Olly (another forum member - Olly4Kay) on ebay will be selling boxes this time too (he just opened all his cases last time) - so it's worth sending him a mail

:)


: Re:potamic is now sold out of preorders!!
: Angels September 02, 2004, 06:43:19 PM
scouse691 is selling boxes on eBay for £48.99. Not sure if this is a good price or not but I have bought individual cards from this seller in the past and was very happy with the service I got.


: Re:potamic is now sold out of preorders!!
: Roz September 02, 2004, 06:59:10 PM
I have to say I think that will be a good to average price long term! Put it this way, scouse's equivalent price last time was £34.99 a box - which is a veeery good price, it was even a good price at the time.

MPC was doing pre-sales at £37.49 a box but you had to pay up front (i.e. over a month ago) and he does buy in serious bulk. From what I gather that price (£37.49) is cheaper than many can buy wholesale (and that is based on a price when you buy 25 cases!)!!!

I think MPC is sold out of his pre-order allocation though.



: Re:potamic is now sold out of preorders!!
: ferdinand_the_yak September 02, 2004, 07:00:57 PM
MPC is selling some for 50GBP on his ebay store now...

Glad I got in early with the pre-ordering!


: Re:potamic is now sold out of preorders!!
: kbmum September 02, 2004, 08:24:31 PM
Here's a small list of companies that are still offering preorders.  Prices are per box unless otherwise noted:

Georgetown Card Exchange
$69.95 per box, $64.95 for 3 or more boxes, $624.95 per case
http://www.gcxonline.com/index_ns.htm

UK Trading Cards
GBP 49.90
http://www.uktradingcards.com
send preorder requests to:  preorders@uktradingcards.com

Time Trek Collectibles
$67.99
http://www.timetrekcollectibles.com/item.php/CatID=628/ItemID=2073

Galaxy's Edge Cards and Collectibles
$64.00
http://home.earthlink.net/~starwarcltr/new.html

Tfaw
$98.55 (and this is with a 10 percent discount for preordering!)
http://www.tfaw.com

Digital Heroes
$65
http://www.digitalheroes.com

Please note that I'm not recommending any site, since I've never had a completed transaction with any of them.  I've exchanged emails with both Georgetown and Digital Heroes, and they've both been responsive and very nice.  

The Time Trek site is reporting that Artbox is close to a sell out, although I think we all know that.


: Re:potamic is now sold out of preorders!!
: becka141 September 03, 2004, 04:49:07 AM
I think I got the last boxes at potomac. I placed my order for a case, and then the next day i was thinking of buying another one, and they were no longer available. I guess I placed my order right in time.


: Re:potamic is now sold out of preorders!!
: Roz September 03, 2004, 02:00:09 PM
I'd be interested to know how much potomac had. I believe they had some considerably sized orders. I hope they only took orders for what they have rather than taking twice as many orders and giving everyone half what they ordered - that's the way to get angry customers in my humble opinion!

Thanks KB Mum that's a really helpful list!

I personally think this is going to be a great set and I am getting excited about it already but I have to admit that any product completely sold out at many retail outlets and certainly from the supplier (Artbox have been out for a while now) is going to be  big success!

I am not sure what will happen to box prices this time though; I can see a lot more being held back unopened than last time based on the fact that a box costs on ebay (on average) twice the value of it's contents.

So lots will remain unopened for a time I think. But in that case maybe the price of the inserts will be a little higher as less have been opened?

What's everyone's opinion? Do you plan to keep any of your boxes sealed? I think I'll keep 2 ;) and I am getting a LOT of boxes this time.


: Re:potamic is now sold out of preorders!!
: sonarghost September 03, 2004, 04:10:56 PM
i actually ordered 3 cases from georgetown and will open a couple of the cases and put the other case along with others i have...

I'm pretty excited about these cards and hope the future sets don't have extreme multiple autographs.......like*cough*lotr! :P


: Re:potamic is now sold out of preorders!!
: gimli September 03, 2004, 11:08:43 PM
well i am a little nerous I have ordered only from cards inc this time but  I used to buy from potomac a lot


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