The Yak Shack Forum

Hi folks, I am on my second issue of NSU ever and it's really cool as it has pics of the costumes that were made into the HP costume cards - I'll scan them in and post them later :)

Anyway, I find the price lists that they have there very inaccurate, - they do say "this list doesn't include the dealer mark up" well if you don't get them from ebay or from a dealer where DO you get cards?

I think I saw something stupid like $40 for a Viggo TT auto! Ha - I'll give them $40 to get me one!

So since I don't know anywhere to get reliable prices apart from ebay, what about we set up our own price logging system. If you see an auction end, you type in data such as the end date, auction number and end price. We can log that info and as time goes on we could show trends of whether autos are increasing in prices or lowering.

Depending on how popular it is or how many inputs we get we could show a "current" price for cards based on the last 4 inputted sales or so. What do you think?

Would you be prepared to help out by inputting this data? I was thinking we could have a counter for howmany each member has inputted and the leader each month gets a small prize as a thank you for all their patience. Would that make sense?

Any suggestions? I think we will program it in PhP (by we I mean - Mark!) what do you say folks...

ahem - sorry

WHAT SAY YOU?  

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

Erm... sorry, don't know how to put the roar into words ;D

Thats cool - I'll help out - do we want LOTR and HP prices? And how many series etc do we want?

Once we have done the programming all we will need to do to extend it to other sets will be to have a card list (it will be as easy as pie basically).  

So really we will make pages for as many sets as you folk are able to keep in your ebay watch list (I can only keep 100 things in my ebay watch list but between us we should get a good cross section of auctions.

Of course it will be more effective if we can start this from when the set originally started out but we can certainly do retrospective sets :) it's just our data will be incomplete, but it will be good enough to give us a general idea.

Searching completed options is a winner... unfortunately it only goes back to 30 days I think it is.

Yeah that's true but it takes a lot of effort, whereas we will have a nice long standing average and also recent averages and they can look up prices of all the cards quite quickley without having to type each in to ebay.

Do you think it's worthwhile or should everyone just rely on completed items? For me no peartrees come up or any TTU Boromirs so it would be hard to know what to pay for one of those if they came up tomorrow if you were new to the "sport"  ;D

I think this is a great idea. Ebay completed items only go back 30 days so imagine if we had a database that could span months and eventually years!!

The only thing is that it takes a lot of work to look up each autograph and track it.  My suggestion would be to get volunteers assigned to tracking a particular group of cards, say I would monitor all Frodo and Sam autos. Then every 2 weeks, the data would be entered into a database and voila! In a few years we would be able to make all kinds of nifty graphs and such.

Of course if you want the current price of every card you just have to ask on the Topps boards. There are freaks out there who track every single card  :P

That's actually a good idea. I was worried about people going to the effort of putting cards in only to find that they had already been entered... Ithink (even including HP cards) we have enough willing members so that each member can have just one or two cards to track and I am sure they could change their choice of cards as some members will get fed up and "retire" :)

Worth a go - right I'll get Mark cracking on the program then, he's web designing for the yak shack for the next 2 weeks so it will be on his to do list

I'll take LOTR cards then as I have not gotten into HP as much...

Let me know when you want data - I can monitor Legolas and Aragorn at least... noooo problems there  ;D

Actually chaps, the info stays online a lot longer than 30 days

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2236971004

is an example.

There's a fine example of tracking for Weta LOTR goodies here

http://www.perspectivevirtual.com/weta/tracking/

Hope this is of some use  :)

R

Roz,

I was tracking a lot of the HP card prices in July, I only have the end date, the amount they reached and the start price for any that did not sell. If you want the info just let me know.

Angie

Ooh yes, please send it in - that would do just fine! Then we can track as far back as possible!

Thanks Angels

Great Idea, We probably are all on Ebay looking up HP and LOTR all the time anyway.

as for NSU price guide, we never use it, usually we can tell by what they are going for on Ebay and then go in between a couple of prices from there.
 So do you want us to just send you emails or assign different things to different people??? Lets get this one started  ;D

Happy to help track some of the HP cards - is this still in the pipeline?

Yep, if you could list the cards you will track I'll do the ones that are left over :)

Mark's been upgrading this site and is doing some freelance for his old empoyees (as well as his own job) but as soon as he gets a free couple of evenings he'll do it :)

Roz - I will get the list together and post in a separate post to see who else is interested in tracking the cards. A couple of thoughts on the information that might be useful to track.

Card Series (Eg POA, POA update etc)
Card Type (Auto, Costume, Prop, Chase etc)
Card Description
Card Number (where applicable)
Ebay Reference #
Ebay End Date
Ebay Price
Ebay Currency
Item Sold (Did it meet its reserve/ Any bids)
Local Sale (ie will on ship to country of origin)

OK This is what I have to go into the tracking list!

POA SET

AUTOGRAPHS

Bonnie Wright As Ginny Weasley    
David Thewlis As Remus Lupin    
Emma Watson As Hermione Granger    
Gary Oldman As Sirius Black    
James Phelps As Fred Weasley    
Julie Christie As Madam Rosmerta (redemtion card)  
Julie Christie As Madam Rosmerta (autograph card)
Matthew Lewis As Neville Longbottom    
Michael Gambon As Albus Dumbledore    
Olivier Phelps As George Weasley    
Robert Hardy As Cornelius Fudge  

CLOTHING CARDS

Harry's Rare Black Cloak (100) 1 in 1200 packs
Harry's Tee shirt (600) 1 in 200 packs
Harry's Common Black Cloak (750) 1 in 160 packs
Ron's Costume (100) 1 in 1200 packs
Hermione's Pink Sweater (450) 1 in 267 packs
Hermione's Robe (900) 1 in 133 packs
George Weasley Red Robe (1300) 1 in 92 packs
Harry's UK ExclusiveBlack Cloak (100)
Ron's UK Exclusive Black Cloak (100)

PROP CARDS

Exploding Bon Bons (96) 1 in 1250 packs
Daily Prophet (200) 1 in 600 packs
Zonko's Bag (300) 1 in 400  packs
Dervish and Banges Bag (484) 1 in 248 packs
Honey Dukes Bag (434) 1 in 276 packs
Black Pepper imps (90) 1 in 1333 packs
Permission Form (100) 1 in 1200 packs
Spindle Lik O'Rish Spiders (70) 1 in 1714 packs
Chocolate Frog (86) 1 in 1395 packs
Pear Tree Leaves  (30)
Honeydukes Candy  (75)

BASE SETS

90 card Artbox Base Set
90 card Cards Inc Base Set (including 17 foils of the character cards)

CHASE SETS

Box topper set

Hobby 9 card foil set - R1-R9
Retail 9 card foil set - M01- M09

PROMO CARD SETS

Green Foil set P1-P5
Blue Foil set P1-P5
Red Foil set P1-P5
Gold Foil set P1-P4
Silver Foil set P1-P5
Holofoil Foil set P1-P5
Non Foil set P1-P5

Tin Cards T1 & T2,

PoA Update set

Green Foil set P1-P4
Blue Foil set P1-P4
Red Foil set P1-P4
Gold Foil set P1-P4
Silver Foil set P1-P4

Can you think of anything I have forgotten?

Have you got the lenticular cards in there

Thanks correct in both places- too much copying and pasteing - that's my problem!

Try this for size

POA SET

Sealed Case (one of 500)

Sealed Box (one of 5000)

Sell sheet

AUTOGRAPHS

Bonnie Wright As Ginny Weasley    
David Thewlis As Remus Lupin    
Emma Watson As Hermione Granger    
Gary Oldman As Sirius Black    
James Phelps As Fred Weasley    
Julie Christie As Madam Rosmerta (redemtion card)  
Julie Christie As Madam Rosmerta (autograph card)
Matthew Lewis As Neville Longbottom    
Michael Gambon As Albus Dumbledore    
Olivier Phelps As George Weasley    
Robert Hardy As Cornelius Fudge  

CLOTHING CARDS

Harry's Rare Black Cloak (100) 1 in 1200 packs
Harry's Tee shirt (600) 1 in 200 packs
Harry's Common Black Cloak (750) 1 in 160 packs
Ron's Costume (100) 1 in 1200 packs
Hermione's Pink Sweater (450) 1 in 267 packs
Hermione's Robe (900) 1 in 133 packs
George Weasley Red Robe (1300) 1 in 92 packs
Harry's UK ExclusiveBlack Cloak (500)
Ron's UK Exclusive Black Cloak (500)

PROP CARDS

Exploding Bon Bons (96) 1 in 1250 packs
Daily Prophet (200) 1 in 600 packs
Zonko's Bag (300) 1 in 400  packs
Dervish and Banges Bag (484) 1 in 248 packs
Honey Dukes Bag (434) 1 in 276 packs
Black Pepper imps (90) 1 in 1333 packs
Permission Form (100) 1 in 1200 packs
Spindle Lik O'Rish Spiders (70) 1 in 1714 packs
Chocolate Frog (86) 1 in 1395 packs
Pear Tree Leaves  (30)
Honeydukes Candy  (75)

LENTICULAR CARDS

Harry Potter Logo (100)
Sirius Black Wanted Poster (200)
Dementor Hand (200)

BASE SETS

90 card Artbox Base Set
90 card Cards Inc Base Set (including 17 foils of the character cards)

CHASE SETS

Box topper set

Hobby 9 card foil set - R1-R9
Retail 9 card foil set - M01- M09

PROMO CARD SETS

Green Foil set P1-P5
Blue Foil set P1-P5
Red Foil set P1-P5
Gold Foil set P1-P4
Silver Foil set P1-P5
Holofoil Foil set P1-P5
Non Foil set P1-P5

Tin Cards T1 & T2,

PoA Update set

Green Foil set P1-P4
Blue Foil set P1-P4
Red Foil set P1-P4
Gold Foil set P1-P4
Silver Foil set P1-P4

 ;D Is this the part where we volunteer

Not quite. There will be an online form for you to fill in - but if anyone has any spaces in their watchlist can they add a few HP items so that we have some to get the price list started ?

:D

Thanks

Not sure if it may useful, or practical, to have a combination category for those auctions which combine multiple cards in the one price.

To be honest I think not.

It would be impossible to do it that way - people will be able to tot up the total for each individual card. And then they can take a bit off to make up for the fact you are essentially buying in bulk.

Sorry but it's not really practical to do that one.

Try coding it ;)

I agree that coding it would be a nightmare ???! I was thinking more of an "other" bucket for those auctions which didn't fit neatly into any of the other categories. All it would contain would be the price and brief free field description of the auction contents.